
Politics – Millions to be spent digging up dirt, 'defining' Democratic candidates
The polarization is hurtful to all of us, helps only the politicians who help themselves, not us. The Swift Boat ads were the most disgraceful political acts since similar tactics against other war heroes like Dole, McCain and McClellan were used. and by the same peole for the same guy - Bush. He is a disgrace to the country he never fought for.
I never get a response from anyone on the right about those four names mentioned above and I've mad the point countless times.
I live in a red state that the dems conceded in the last national convention so the only political commercials I saw were the ones that said Kerry flip-flopped and voted 240 times to raise taxes - right up until the voting. Many of these commercials were supposedly pulled nationally for their deception. For example Factcheck.org said Kerry only voted about 40 times to raise taxes, normal for a Democrat in office as long as he has been. What gross lies from the Party of Corruption - and more to come. No wonder Reagan vetoed the Truth in Tlecommunications Act in '87 to permit the side with the big bucks and the owners of the major media to blugeon Americans with their distorted truth.
Of course U nimrods are going to believe this and then just shut your mind to the converse. Let me guess, U believe that the dems are not going to use the same methods and play it clean. That they are going to play it clean and fair and come out looking like angels. U morons need to quit watching the wishful thinking channel. U need to show you have more than a couple of functional brain particles. None of U realize what fools U R making yourselves look like.
Bobcat,
Thanks for making a fool of yourself by your ignorant comments. Yes, look at real Republican Presidential history: Watergate, Iran-Contra, Criminal Indictments of how many Bush supporters/staff members, Two Supreme Court decisions against bush for violating laws, etc...
And all you have on the Dems is a President with a sexual dereliction that didn't cost lives. What hypocricy!
Sad. Be nice if we could turn on the radio in October and not hear this nonsense. But I doubt it. Its bad when either side does it but the conservatives have made it a pillar of their approach i.e.Karl Rove, Lee Atwater who had the decency on his death bed to apologize. On the other hand it works. Adlai Stevenson once said "The American People get the politics they deserve." If we want it to stop just stop voting for the nimrods that put this stuff on the radio. Their names are on it. Be nice if in the primary voters would ask the candidates if they will forego negative advertising if they are selected. Who knows might help.
tagaman - good initial point about both sides. My findings, just me, have indicated the right does a little better job at mud slinging than the dems. Look at what they did to Dole, McCain, McClellan and Kerry. Explain that for me, please. and I haven't seen you using insults but on these sights it is mostly right wingers who insult. Look at your cohort Afterglow who lays out two put downs and then you praise them. Neither of Glow's remarks are in any way pertinent or representative of the Democratic Party.
dlsawyer - You never answered my questions about calling me a punk.
Sawyer,
No one does obfuscation better than Rumsfeld... and sometimes you can't tell what Dubya is saying. Dubya on the Energy Bill that eliminated any restrictions for ownership across the various energy commodities (Anti-monopoly Act for the 1930s): "We need an energy bill that encourages consumption." What did he say?
Donald
The number of indictments and convictions of the Bush team are miniscule. If you really want to see a long list of convictions, just look at the Clinton record, as I recall there were dozens of indictment and convictions. Including Slick himself. In fact he was disbarred in his home state for his Felony conviction.
Check out the mudslinging shirts and stickers at http://www.cafepress.com/thehousedivided
There's always mudslinging going on from both sides!
Donald51: No wonder Reagan vetoed the Truth in Tlecommunications Act in '87 to permit the side with the big bucks and the owners of the major media to blugeon Americans with their distorted truth.>>>>>
In the spirit of keeping liberals honest, let's take our hits for Clinton having signed a bill to deregulate the media even more. Of course we all pay for that, by being propagandized from one 'side' or the other.
Let's face it ~ It's the voters who lose in every instance. At least the voters who really care and don't just go along with one politician over another because that's the party line.
Yeah, it's been this way for a long time. It's just too bad, what with all the communications out there, that the candidates couldn't be forced to really talk about the issues and give their own opinions. But most of them will tow the party line.
Or, as this article brings out, they'll try to get personal and point to past problems the person had. How often will the issues truly be addressed?
I'm sick of the "This Republican has voted to kill our troops..." or "This Democrat voted to weaken our country..."
Both are distortions of the real record.
I have more respect for the candidates who do what their heart says, don't have a problem explaining why they may have changed a vote, or standing up and voting for what they believe is best for Americans and damn the party line!
FactCheck.org is a good site to check if you have any questions regarding political ads. It states the truth of the ad with no regard to party and states why it is false or true. We have seen the ads against Sherod Brown for the past week or so made with Mike Dewine, never giving the full story of a particular vote. This site will help you learn the truth, no matter what party you are.
Negative advertising, while not innately wrong, is generally mud-slinging and usually slander. But the problem is not with either of the two parties; you can't blame the Democrats or the Republicans for practicing what works.. No the problem is with the American public that buys it; if the voting body was more educated, it wouldn't be influenced by such nonsense. Unfortunately, the average American is more interested in celebrity gossip and American Idol than what actually matters...
Their goose is cooked, they've spun one too many lie about 9/11, and they know Americans are waking up to the truth.
Can the Jewish lobby save them now?
I hope they all have dual citizenship of Israel and keep their Israeli passports updated.
Israel and 9/11:-
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wrh_9-11_index.html
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=68985
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=89717
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Typical. If they can't win on their own merits, they sling mud until they've made themselves look good by comparison.
Have they no shame? I guess not. The 2004 "Swift Boat" attacks should have taught us that.