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Bobcat6
Sept. 25, 2006, 8:42 a.m.Finally something from Time that makes sense. Don't get your hopes us yet dems. That article is true and I will laugh loudest if Republicans win, AGAIN! The dems have no known plan for terrorism or the economy. Raising taxes, hate and looking for scandal seems to be the only items on the dems agenda. I still don't believe that dems like paying more on taxes especially after receiving refunds over the past six years. Come on, let's hear your miracle overnight plans for this country.
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samsara15
Sept. 25, 2006, 8:47 a.m.You're irght that this election may not be a Democratic victory. However, We're in a deep hole..so, first of all, we'll stop digging. The economy isn't doing all that well, either. Raising taxes on the rich is not a bad idea. Scandal-mongering we can do without. Come to think of it, the last time we had a Democratic President, the Republican Congress went wild scandal-nongering.
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farmerman
Sept. 25, 2006, 9:11 a.m.When your're only articulated position is "I Hate Bush", don't expect the voters to back you. In addition, the Liberals can't be trusted with the security of this Nation. The Republicans will hold both Houses. The only ones washed up are the Dems.
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AirNewZealand
Sept. 25, 2006, 9:48 a.m."hate and looking for scandal seems to be the only items on the dems agenda"
Let's be honest ok...During the Clinton years, the republicans perfected the art of hate & mean-spirited dialogue..
I do think Dems will gain some seats in the Senate, perhaps not a majority, but they should win PA, OH, & Montana, & could win Missouri to..They will also gain seats in the House, & I think that's where they have a better chance of a takeover..
Your republican party needs to get back to tax relief & other fiscal issues...Sadly, the deplorable religous right has taken over your party & makes non-sense like gay marriage, pornography, & Hollywood their platform...
Republicans need to get back to the center, like a Chaffee (RI) & quit catering to the extreme far-right crowd...
Given the current state of the republican party, it's rather easy to vote a straight Democratic ticket in this & forseeable elections...
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samsara15
Sept. 25, 2006, 9:48 a.m.Sooner or later this politics of promoting fear and hysteria among the electorate will run dry. When all you can do is say to 'stay the course', you're in trouble. The Republicans seem to have run out of ideas.
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farmerman
Sept. 25, 2006, 10:11 a.m.Zeigfeldgirl
Did you notice how he was pointing his finger at Chris Wallace, obviously he was lying again. With Clinton, finger pointing and lips moving equal lying.
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djwilli
Sept. 25, 2006, 10:46 a.m.AirNewZealand: The Senate race in Ohio is a tossup. To declare it a Democrat seat is totally premature. More importantly, you say that Dems will pickup seats because voters want more moderate officeholders. In Ohio, the Democrat candidate, Sherrod Brown, is left-wing on virtually every issue without moderation, while the incumbent Republican senator, Mike DeWine, has been criticized by the right-wing voters of Ohio for being too centrist. Thus, in Ohio, either you will be right about the Dem winning, but you'll be wrong about the moderate winning, OR you'll be right about the moderate winning, but wrong about the Dem winning.
I'm voting for DeWine.
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1-2-Oscar
Sept. 25, 2006, 10:48 a.m.The biggest obstacle that Democrats must overcome is the widely-held perception that their party does not like the people and does not trust the people. To change that perception will require changes of such magnitude that they will bring a new generation of leadership to the party. I do not forsee that happening easily. Instead, I expect that Dean, Pelosi, Kerry, Reid, and Kennedy will continue to rail that they alone have all the answers, and that the people have been "deluded" by the other party.
Thomas Jefferson had great faith in the ability of the common man to make decisions in his own best interests. For the most part, history has demonstrated that Jefferson was right. It's too bad that the current Democratic Party leadership never learned that the wisdom of the people is as least as good as their own.
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1-2-Oscar
Sept. 25, 2006, 10:48 a.m.Incidentally, I serve on a committee dedicated to electing Harlod Ford, Jr. to the US Senate this year. He is an example of the type of new leadership now available.
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djwilli
Sept. 25, 2006, 11 a.m.AirNewZealand: "it's rather easy to vote a straight Democratic ticket in this & forseeable elections..."
I don't usually vote a straight party ticket (but, on those occasions that I have, it's been for Republicans), because the races at the bottom of the ballot have little to do with the races at the top of the ballot. Out of a sense of duty, I gather information about every candidate, up and down the ballot, and decide who to vote for based on how I size up each individual. For me, to do otherwise would make me an irresponsible voter. Though voting for the Republican in the Senate race and in the gubernatorial race, a Democrat still has a chance to win my vote in some other race if that Democrat stacks up better than the opposing Republican.
Please vote for the best person for each job.
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dandt1612
Sept. 25, 2006, 11:12 a.m.So many different polls. Can you believe any of them? One week it looks good for the Republicans and the next week it looks good for the Democrats. I don't think they are worth a dime anymore. my opinion only. Peace
djwilli, Please vote for the best person for each job. YOU ARE RIGHT!!
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AirNewZealand
Sept. 25, 2006, 11:47 a.m.djwilli,
You said "The Senate race in Ohio is a tossup"
If I'm not mistaken, Cleveland/Cuyohgha (spelling) counties are rather Democrat whereas Hamilton Co. & areas near Cincinnati are strong Republican bases, what's Columbus, is it more Dem./Rep?..
Now you said you're voting for the republican candiate for governor, who is Ken Blackwell...See, I could never vote for someone that socially conservative, I'm VERY liberterian when it comes to social issues...I'm just such a strong believer in the govt. staying out of people's lives...Nothing gets me angrier than hearing the politican who blames all the worlds' problems on pornography & Howard Stern...Adults are able to make the best decisions as to what they watch & listen to without the help from the govt..Sadly, the more socially conservative one is, the greater is the need for him/her to intrude on other people's lives...
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CharacterCounts
Sept. 25, 2006, 11:49 a.m.1-2-Oscar, don't waste you time on Harold Ford Jr. He's just another "blame everything on White America" politician. He has nothing to offer. Everytime he's on tv, it's the same ol' line of bashing Bush. Where are the new ideas from the Democrats? There aren't any. Let me ask you a question, if Hillary and Condi were running for the Presidency...who would you vote for and why?
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middleshadow
Sept. 25, 2006, 11:53 a.m.lets hear it for bloodshed, rampaging debt, incompetent conieism government, and a public that adores being lied to, altogether now, 4moreyears, 4moreyears
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toph1973
Sept. 25, 2006, 12:03 p.m.God help this America is so stupid to elect the neocons back into office. How stupid have we gotten as a country? I'm already embarrased to admit that I'm American because of how stupid this polulation has become.
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zman
Sept. 25, 2006, 12:30 p.m.AirNewZ - read your first post and could not agree more. I'm mostly a Dem guy, but have voted for a couple Inde's and Repubs on occasion. The Repubs used to be a fiscally responsible party with a number of historicallt good/great leaders. The far right and neocons have poisoned the GOP. They really need to get centrist and away from the radicals on the far right. I say let the radicals form their own party and whither away. They have proven divisive and are roadblocks to science.
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1-2-Oscar
Sept. 25, 2006, 12:58 p.m.CharacterCounts, I have known young Ford for several years and I knew his father before that. You have repeated several generalized statements here, but many of a sort that indicate you have little knowledge of the man or his positions. Has he made partisan speeches? Yes, and he played a prominent role at the last Democratic national convention. Did he fulfill a role for which he was selected by the party leadership? Yes, and that fact will help him achieve prominence in Democratic Party policy councils.
Ford is a talented man, and an intelligent man. In most circles he is known as a "comer." I believe that he will be the sort of leader that Democrats need to reconnect to the majority of the electorate.
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time4change
Sept. 25, 2006, 1:10 p.m.Hey bobcat, WRONG AGAIN !! So what is the neocon/repub plan ?? Let's see, stay the course in Iraq (while our men/women are being taken out like shooting fish in a barrel and we now officially know that Iraq has increased terrorism and decreased our safety), stay the course on economic homefront (we're trillions in debt and getting worse by day)....the neocons are the ones who have 'cut and run'.....from education, independence from foreign oil, health care, jobs and worse yet, the Constitution.
For the first time ever this independent is voting for every Democrat that is breathing.....
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gumballrally427
Sept. 25, 2006, 1:16 p.m.time4change: Do you actually feel LESS safe? Last time I checked there were no attacks on US soil from terrorists.
And as for your other talking points: healthcare, jobs, etc. Just the usual rhetoric from the left. Oh, don't forget the environment. And how much you dislike big business? But you have a job, right?
And I don't believe this'll be the first time you ever voted straight Democrat.
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CharacterCounts
Sept. 25, 2006, 1:17 p.m.Oscar, if you actually know Harold Ford Jr....give him some advice...tell him to step out from the pack of Liberal Democrats and offer some ideas on gas prices, the war, taxes, education, you pick the topic. All you ever hear from him on TV is the same old line that all of the Dems are espousing. If he is a new up and coming leader, then tell him to get his self out there and separate himself from the rest of them. He is very articulate but his words are no different that any of the other Dems. Tell him to make a name for himself nation wide, not just in Tennessee or among the Black voters. Right now he's just another Black man in Congress. Tell him to step out and offer some alternatives to what's going on in Washington. Then maybe people will listen to him. By the way, I live in Alabama and I can tell you that if a Black man (or woman) shows up with some smarts, fresh ideas that make sence, and can articulate them to the public, they could own Washington.
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1-2-Oscar
Sept. 25, 2006, 1:21 p.m.CharacterCounts, he has done so. Perhaps you could subscribe to a Tennessee newspaper.
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mamasan
Sept. 25, 2006, 1:22 p.m.Is this considered scandalous:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-moore/the-closets-of-karl-and-k_b_28669.html
Or simply hypocritical?
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djwilli
Sept. 25, 2006, 1:22 p.m.AirNewZealand, when one votes for the person, rather than the party, one has to take a look at the alternatives. The alternatives to Blackwell are Strickland, Fitrakis, Pierce, Bays, and Lundeen. The other candidate I considered is Pierce, who, by the way, is Libertarian. Though none match up perfectly with what I want in a governor, I can vote for just one person, and that one person must be one of those I just named. That's the reality.
Your description of Blackwell is too much like a caricature found in a political cartoon. I've met Blackwell in person on three separate occasions, and he's not the Inquisitor that he's made out to be.
Why not Pierce? I am and have always been opposed to casinos in Ohio. The last two governors vowed to veto casino legislation in the past. The legislators want it so that they can reward some (gambling lobbyist) campaign contributors with near monopolies in the gambling industry. Blackwell will keep the legislature in check.
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