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Posted by: msaleem 1 year, 10 months ago"48 Laws of Power" author Robert Greene on Election 2006: "How to crush Karl Rove and the Republicans in Five Easy Steps"
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Lurch
Oct. 23, 2006, 6:10 p.m.Excellent commentary on an overall strategy for taking back America from the crooks and liars running our country currently.
The Bush admin and current crop of sympathizers have done more damage to our country than the terrorists.
It`s past time for a change.
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Teagen
Oct. 24, 2006, 10:51 a.m.With old Hillary as the front runner, do you really want to start claiming this administration is corrupt? A minor reminder of the last Clinton:
- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court
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FrankieT
Oct. 23, 2006, 6:32 p.m.Did Rove know how to win? Certainly. Did he care how he won or who he was destroying in the process? No. Was it really about the country or the people who would gain financially from his victories. what do you think?
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mamasan
Oct. 23, 2006, 7:17 p.m.Yes Casper the Rove is very mercenary.
It will come back to haunt him./
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Teagen
Oct. 24, 2006, 11:39 a.m.And you guys have Jim Carvel. Neither guy would ever win an award for playing fair or nice. Two pitbulls, tunnel vission. Win or die, never surrender. Both annoying but effective.
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WngC618
Oct. 24, 2006, 12:31 p.m.Rove would have sold his own grandmother if he would have been able to gain from that...
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Donnaich
Oct. 24, 2006, 1:02 p.m.I blame Karl Rove for the current polarization problem. His win at all cost strategies are exactly what has put us here in this situation.
He's the one that, even before Kuo wrote his book, was reported as walking through the White House corridors whistling "Onward Christian Soldiers".
Talk about Teflon...
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Lurch
Oct. 23, 2006, 6:37 p.m.Hey Frankie,
What I don`t get is how people like Rove can make that change from `American first` to `Neocon first`.
In other words, how does one justify to one`s self the conversion from being human to being a monster?
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mamasan
Oct. 23, 2006, 7:18 p.m.The justification is all about the money.
He came from poor and dysfuntional. He needs to distance himself at all costs.
Just like Tara in gone with the wind....I will never go hungry again.
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mamasan
Oct. 23, 2006, 7:16 p.m."The centerpiece of this grand strategy, to me, should be the environment and a solid energy policy. "
Sounds good to me.
Replicans are weak on the environment and could care less about the future of our children and grand children.
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ningyo
Oct. 23, 2006, 9:07 p.m.so howcum in 6 years no- has voted for this idea--and dont give me the baloney about stolen elections--thats just conspriracy nonsense--the dems are the masters at getting ghosts and drunks out to the polls--from the dawn of american politics
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truthaddict
Oct. 23, 2006, 11:49 p.m.Propaganda is powerful...and only 25% of Americans have a college degree, that would explain the ability of the Rove machine to dupe enough people in order to slither into power.
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Donnaich
Oct. 24, 2006, 1:13 p.m.While we're on the subject of propaganda, a word from a practitioner...
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works in every country." ~Hermann Goering, Hitler's Reich-Marshall at the Nuremberg Trials
Theido, the liberal college professors aren't the only ones using propaganda. Consider the proliferation of talk radio, Faux News, Rupert Murdoch media. All to send the above message.
And before you get all bent out of shape, when the best example of the dangers of Fascism is found in World War II, people are going to be pointing to it. The world struggled to get Fascism under control, it does not need another dose.
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deathray
Oct. 23, 2006, 9:53 p.m.I think this is a very interesting commentary. It does seem at the very least that the Republicans are foing themselves in and are hanging themselves witrh their own rope...and it is their own rope. The interesting thing is that they are having a terrible time changing course. It is like they are a supertanker, with a lot of masss and inertia, and not very numble at changing course at alll. They created this problem for themselves by being ideological rather than pragmatic.
Too bad, so sad.
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a2505279
Oct. 23, 2006, 10:19 p.m.Actually, I am not sure a Republican win this time around would be the best outcome for them in the long run. Maybe it would be better for the Democrats to win the House and Senate majority. All hell will break loose as the Government comes to a legislative stop with hearings on impeachment, bogus investigations on just about everything you can imagine. Gridlock will surely ensue, which will really get the public angry at the Democrats and the Republican will be set up for 08 presidential election. Maybe giving the democrats a little rope they will hang themselves.
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mcgrievysr
Oct. 23, 2006, 10:36 p.m.a2505279----ah, we're beginning to see the onset of senility. Working in physics doesn't ensure that one can be a logical thinker. Sad if there was a time when you might have been a critical thinker.
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not2needy
Oct. 23, 2006, 10:39 p.m.Trying to find a way to place blame on the Democrats and they haven't even won the election yet.
How sad is that?
In fact, how paranoid is that?
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Lurch
Oct. 23, 2006, 10:41 p.m.After six years of the worst "do nothing rubber stamp" congress in my life, anything seems better.
If all they do is stop Bush from ******ing on that damn piece of paper people used to call the constitution, that is a good step in the right direction.
If all they do is investigate the truth about the corruption behind the Republican mafia, that is a GREAT step in the right direction.
If all they do is force open and honest debate, that is a REFRESHING step in the right direction.
If all they do is force the WH to compromise on their extremist agenda, that is a wise step in the right direction.
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lfergie812
Oct. 23, 2006, 10:55 p.m.Democrats winning just one house of congress would be the best thing to stop this madness coming from the White House. Getting nothing done would be better that what has happened the last 6 years.
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truthaddict
Oct. 23, 2006, 11:51 p.m.Please take a Poli Sci 101 class
It's called checks and balances..but then fascists dont believe in that..
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Donnaich
Oct. 24, 2006, 1:17 p.m.Or will people finally realize it is time to find other places to put their votes, because '08 is only two years away and the insult of the Republicans are fresh in their mind?
We can always hope...
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PoMo
Oct. 23, 2006, 10:33 p.m.What needs to happen is called "Checks and Balances" the Republicans need to learn to work with the Democrates for a solution that will work for everyone.
BALANCE needs to come back.
Bipartisan law making needs to come back and K street needs to not rule the government.
Corruption needs to end and all it's violaters punished, banned and thier pensions revoked! No criminal should get a Pension for life on the taxpayers thjey screweds back.
PERIOD THE END!
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PoMo
Oct. 23, 2006, 10:34 p.m.Rove is scared. He narrowly got off in the Plame Scandal and if he tries agian maybe a Democratic congress will actually investigate stuff, rather than say "Yes sir, I will just drop it or cover it up."
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not2needy
Oct. 23, 2006, 10:43 p.m.Excellent read msaleem!
It's time Rove got scared, his scare tactics keeping the elderly (and mentally challenged) convinced that the Rep party is the only people who can keep them safe has come back to bite him in the ass.
All good (or bad) things comes to an end, and where this administration is concerned i hope it comes full circle.
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PoMo
Oct. 23, 2006, 10:45 p.m.Rove will end up like Delay, and should end up like Abrimoff is there is real justice left in this country.
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Demsaredim
Oct. 23, 2006, 10:48 p.m."set forth a strong agenda that gives the Republicans something to attack."
Ha,Ha LMAO what agenda cut and run?
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lfergie812
Oct. 23, 2006, 11:02 p.m.Maybe you haven't read the news about Rumsfeld telling Iraq to get ready for American troops to start their withdrawal. But then they might not show that on FOX because it might sound like cut and run. LMAO
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Lurch
Oct. 23, 2006, 11:24 p.m.How`s that "Stay the Failure" lack of strategy doing for ya?
What do we have to look forward to if the Reps keep both houses? Business as usual...corruption as usual...crony entitlements as usual...increasing debt limits as usual...hijacking of war on terror as usual...more energy companies gauging the consumers as usual...
Thanks for nothing cons.
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Helixbuilder
Oct. 24, 2006, noonHere GW's agenda in Iraq "Stay and Die!"
What is a definition of insanity; doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result! By that rubric the Republicans under Bush can be declared insane.
You can't fight a conventional war against terrorist. Therefore the terror strategy needs to be UNCONVETIONAL!
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tchef
Oct. 23, 2006, 11:04 p.m.This article hits the nail on the head with what has been wrong with the Demacratic party since the end of Clinton. Joe Bidon was saying this very thing during the last election. It's the disorganization of the party and lack of clear direction that has been scaring people away.
Demsardim stay the course is getting us victory how? Nothing is getting better in Iraq. Something needs to change. We need to change the course and find a way to achieve victory.
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not2needy
Oct. 23, 2006, 11:05 p.m.Demsaredim:
Your name leaves no leeway for intelligent debate with you.
And the cut and run argument, that has about ran it's course.
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uncle-dave
Oct. 23, 2006, 11:07 p.m."The centerpiece of this grand strategy, to me, should be the environment and a solid energy policy."
This is the single most important thing that the Democratic party can do for our country. Every thing that we do is dependent on oil. If we approach our oil addiction the way Roosevelt approached the Manhattan project and Kennedy the space program, we can rid ourselves of this association with questionable regimes, and maybe create some jobs here in this country.
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Lurch
Oct. 23, 2006, 11:27 p.m.the environment first strategy is a winner.
A winner for national security.
A winner for international competition and trade.
A winner for future technology leadership.
Which means it is against everything the current government stands for.
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Tcaros
Oct. 23, 2006, 11:22 p.m.Democrats need to speak out against the diseregard for the rule of law, the failed policy in Iraq, the failure to hold Bin Laden accountable, and the tearing down of two landmarks- the Constitution and Bill of Rights under this administration. They should mention the continual lies like WMDs, the use of fear tactics to hold America hostage, the step away from the moral high ground in the world by condoning the use of torture.
The Rove strategies are not that difficult to follow: use fear of future attacks to paralyze and get your way, call anyone who disagrees unpatriotic, sacrifice the truth in the process while claiming you are making progress. This works the same in any country until people start speaking out. That is why they want to stifle the debate in "public square." They don't want a debate they want to push people out of the square.
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Lurch
Oct. 23, 2006, 11:30 p.m.Hey cons,
Let`s vote for more cons so the Congress can spend weeks every years discussing absolutely meaningless topics such as marriage amendment, flag burning, etc.
The Republicans have tripled pork since 1994. They are the enemy within.
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blinkers
Oct. 23, 2006, 11:52 p.m.It is abundantly clear that if the Democrats do wrest either House from the Republicans, the expectations and hopes will be huge.
It will be a tremendous task indeed to right the good ship USA, after this NeoCon debacle.
Fingers crossed.
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truthseekerr
Oct. 24, 2006, 12:14 a.m.Good points Ifergie812!
Getting nothing done but bringing the Bush-Rove-... monster express to a halt by even one Congressional House coming under Democratic hands is reason enough to vote Democratic!
I too hope that people are listening with both ears and their minds, because they will hear the Republicans actually talking about cutting and running.
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kedirian
Oct. 24, 2006, 1:51 a.m.Said GWB just the other day, " We're NOT going to change our strategy...."
So, it was OK to change "strategy" (in 2003) and surrender to his AHAD..and get distracted from chasing Osama in Afghanistan to look for WMD's in Irak?
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Lurch
Oct. 24, 2006, 2:24 a.m.Just saw on CNN a few minutes ago that the cons have tripled the amount of pork giveaways since 1994 when they were voted in to clean up DC.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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Twistoflex
Oct. 24, 2006, 3:21 a.m.WHILE YOU PAY THRU THE NOSE AT THE PUMPS...THEY GIVE TO THE REPUGNANTS TO MAKE THEIR SCURRILOUS ADS!
Big Oil's 10 favorite Congress members Rank Candidate Office Amount given by oil and gas industry
1
Hutchison, Kay Bailey, R-Texas
Senate
$258,361
2
Burns, Conrad, R-Mont.
Senate
$188,775
3
Santorum, Rick, R-Pa.
Senate
$188,120
4
Bode, Denise, R-Okla.
House
$153,650
5
Allen, George, R-Va.
Senate
$148,600
6
Talent, James M., R-Mo.
Senate
$147,470
7
Cornyn, John, R-Texas
Senate
$142,750
8
Barton, Joe, R-Texas
House
$138,450
9
Hastert, Dennis, R-Ill.
House
$122,200
10
Pombo, Richard, R-Calif.
House
$121,340
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rrrtx
Oct. 24, 2006, 9:28 a.m.Although these amounts seem like a lot that's really not very much money. It's not much in terms of what campaigns cost. And it certainly isn't enough to affect the price of gas.
Did any Democrats get money? It's probable. But mentioning them wouldn't fit your effort to make Republicans look as bad as possible would it?
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