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Democratic Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record), a pair of front-runners in waiting, have shown fresh signs in recent days of joining the 2008 race, hiring senior aides while they court potential supporters in Iowa, New Hampshire and other key states.

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not2needy
Jan. 13, 2007, 11:30 a.m.
YAY, i hope they do well. At one time i said that i didn't think Hilary would be a good pres, but after these last 6 years, with 2 more to go, Magilla Gorilla would be a welcome change.
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aniokly
Jan. 13, 2007, 11:36 a.m.
Democrats will field a Clinton-Obama ticket in 08, and any American who does not vote for that ticket will be labeled Sexist, Homophobe, and Racist. Won't work. Americans will not vote for a Liberal ticket no matter what gender or color it is.

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  jordan11
  Jan. 13, 2007, 3:21 p.m.
  Suuuuure they won't. They have the failed neocon agenda of the past 12 years to make em want more. suuuure.
  
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    froggs09
    Jan. 14, 2007, 12:58 a.m.
    Wow, I didn't know Bill Clinton was a neocon, jordan11. Thanks for bringing me up to date.
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  Beau7890
  Jan. 13, 2007, 7:29 p.m.
  Yeah, a Clinton-Obama ticket won't happen. Obama won't settle for being Hilliary's wingman and Hillary doesn't like him.
  And any American who voted against Bush was labeled anti-American. What's new?
  As for Americans not voting for a liberal ticket, what happened two months ago?
  
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    LordyLordy
    Jan. 13, 2007, 10:31 p.m.
    Obama will be the choice, and Hillary will be the running mate for Vice President. Then after the elections she'll have him whacked and become President. Takes no rocket scientist to unravel that one? Then Nacny Peloski can become VP?
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    froggs09
    Jan. 14, 2007, 1 a.m.
    Most every Democrat who took A Republican seat ran as a conserative Democrat and now that they won the liberals will take over.
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ybdogsct
Jan. 13, 2007, 2:45 p.m.
I'd rather see a John Edwards - Barack Obama ticket.
"Americans will not vote for a Liberal ticket no matter what gender or color it is."
Don't you think it's a little presumptuous to be speaking on behalf of all Americans, particularly after the eviction of the Republican majority in both houses of Congress and in light of Bush's abysmal approval ratings?
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jordan11
Jan. 13, 2007, 3:23 p.m.
dont make this a beauty contest>>>>>
Let's do. The beauty of brains vs inane/childish rhetoric.
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K10House
Jan. 13, 2007, 5:23 p.m.
garmissou86- Why do you say that Sen. Obama represents the Dems having nothing? Have you heard him speak about the issues? I have, and it was a very welcome change - more human than politician, a very dedicated father, and SMART. Then there's his experience- We can start w/ his tenure as President of the Harvard Law Review and work our way to his current service on some of the most important committees in Washington. I mean, I'm sure compared to you, he's some kind of slacker. Nevertheless, if you have a problem with the guy, why don't you point to something of substance and back it up?
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DeltaX
Jan. 13, 2007, 3:16 p.m.
Reps will easily beat either one of these, without having to spend a dime. Why should us citizens take Dems seriously if they can't be bothered to offer viable candidates?

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  not2needy
  Jan. 13, 2007, 4:13 p.m.
  Oh yeah, the last 8 years of the Bush administration will certainly help the repub cause, i mean look at what it did for the cons last Nov! Get a grip!
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NelsonR
Jan. 13, 2007, 3:17 p.m.
DEMOCRATS always make the same mistakes. I'M independent, most of the country is middle of the road. What do the Democrats do, elect liberals to challenge a middle of road Republican. Our worst President, "Bush" is, was, I don't know, well - He seemed, conservative to the chagrin of the ultra conservaties.
Anyway, Democrats put up a ticket with "middle of road" candidates. PLEASE.
Have to add this quote from another blogger, Obama is so new he cannot find his own office. "Where is his past political record.
Hillary is so liberal she watches leaves fall from a tree and dependent upon which direction they fall she goes in that direction. A leader who leads by the latest polls with no novel opinions developed over time.

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  ybdogsct
  Jan. 14, 2007, 3:14 a.m.
  NELSON R WROTE:
  "Anyway, Democrats put up a ticket with "middle of road" candidates. PLEASE."
  Obama is in the "middle of the road."
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama
  "Reviewing Obama's career in the Illinois Senate, commentators noted his ability to work effectively with both Democrats and Republicans, and to build coalitions."
  http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_15
  "But he also has earned a reputation as an innovative legislator who can cross party lines and build coalitions."
  NELSON R WROTE:
  "Obama is so new he cannot find his own office. 'Where is his past political record.'"
  Bush's pre-presidential Record: 6 years as state governor
  Obama's Record (by 2008 presidential election): 8 years state senator, 4 years senator
  Obama's total record will double Bush's experience in an elected office prior to a presidential campaign.
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aniokly
Jan. 13, 2007, 4:57 p.m.
Democrats are so pitiful. They think winning an election where only 40% of Americans show up at the poll is a landslide. Barely half of that 40% voted Democrat. Unless they kiss an awful lot of Republicans they will get nothing done in the 110th. Thus they become the "do Nothings" and we will sweep them out in 08. So far they have put nothing on the Presidents desk, and they only have 21 1/2 months to get something done. What a hoot.

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  K10House
  Jan. 13, 2007, 5:28 p.m.
  aniokly - where have you been? Try reading the newspaper or heaven's forbid, watch a little C-Span. Yeah, many Dems have been pitiful in many ways, but not so much lately. They've been getting a lot done. What's pitiful is your freewheeling generalization and ignorance. A hoot? Not so much. If you aren't going to keep up with what our representatives have been doing, maybe you should join the non-voters.
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  jordan11
  Jan. 13, 2007, 5:51 p.m.
  8. So far they have put nothing on the Presidents desk, >>>>>
  Now that ridiculous remark wins a prize. In one week, the House passed a minimum wage increase. In 12 years, the cons passed nothing on minimum wage. In one week, the House passed a bill to help fund scientific reasearch. In 12 years, the cons took research back into the dark ages. In one week, the House passed a bill to make prescription drugs (that YOU pay for) competitive in pricing. In 12 years, the CONS put the elderly at risk, making many unable
  to afford only brand name drugs. The democrats did these things ALL in the same week. Puleeeeeze.....grow up.
  
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    Skeptic
    Jan. 13, 2007, 8:34 p.m.
    So far, nothing 'passed' by the House has gotten through the Senate. The minimum wage bill is already being seen as "politics as usual" since America Samoa was exempted and even though Ms. Pelosi's name does not appear on the bill, that exemption appears to favor San Francisco based companies with major operations in American Samoa.
    Personally, I like Medicare, part D. More importantly, 80% of Seniors appear to like it. There is a flaw in the plan but making the U. S. Government the main negotiator of drug prices does nothing to fix the flaw.
    None of the proposed legislation is being allowed substantive debate. So much for the promises of collaboration and bi-partisanship.
    I am not impressed yet, but I will give them the benefit of a doubt and wait to see if they (the Democrats) will actually deliver on their promises. I expect, and want, some real plans and programs that are not just "Bush bashing."
    This is off topic, but I had to respond.
    
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      jordan11
      Jan. 13, 2007, 10:06 p.m.
      So far, nothing 'passed' by the House has gotten through the Senate>>>>
      SO WHAT? Legislation originates in the House, and they have done more in one week, than CONS can lay claim to in 12 YEARS! That is the point. Now their bills go to committee in the Senate. The committees, with both sides participating, decide if they want changes. From there, it goes to a vote. What transpires in committee will tell us how 'bi partisan' the conservatives can be. I've no doubt the democrats will not be making undue changes, and will want these to go to an expedient vote. We shall see if cons hold things up.
      
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        Skeptic
        Jan. 14, 2007, 6:29 p.m.
        Yes, certain legislation originates in the House. That does not make it law until the Senate concurs with the language and the President has signed it into law. Until that happens, nothing has been accomplished.
        Bi-partisanship does not mean that the Republicans simply roll over, although the Democrats are trying to paint any opposition to their proposals as obstinate and partisan. I think you would have been really crying if the House of the past twelve years simply rammed through their agenda as the Democrats are trying to do now.
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      ybdogsct
      Jan. 14, 2007, 3:23 a.m.
      ANKIOLY WROTE:
      "Thus they [the Democrats] become the "do Nothings" and we will sweep them out in 08."
      President Bush and the rubber-stamp Republican Congress dragged this country so far down that even if the 110th Congress accomplishes nothing (due to presidential vetoes), the Democrats would still come out miles ahead of the Republican-controlled government.
      SKEPTIC WROTE:
      "The minimum wage bill is already being seen as "politics as usual" since America Samoa was exempted..."
      The FSLA of 1938 is a ~70 year old act. Nancy Pelosi is only responsible for the bill passed on January 10, 2007, which can be found here:
      http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi
      Show me again, specifically where in the bill that was passed on January 10, 2007 does Pelosi specifically name Samoa, Starkist, and Del Monte for exemptions? Go ahead; quote it if you can.
      
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        Skeptic
        Jan. 14, 2007, 6:16 p.m.
        Perhaps I should be more clear. The House failure is a sin of ommission, not commission. And perhaps you should read the whole of the FLSA-1938. Pay particular attention to Sec. 5, Sec. 6(a)(3) and Sec. 8. Note also that Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands were also brought under full compliance in 1989 as the Marianas were this time.
        Many laws have been written in language such that very few can actually benefit. Ms. Pelosi is now in charge; it should have been her responsibility to correct a perceived injustice, or is it only Bush that you want held responsible for everything wrong in our government?
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  Beau7890
  Jan. 13, 2007, 7:39 p.m.
  I'm sorry, aniokly. Could you also do that math about the Republican wins in 2000, 2002, and 2004?
  And speaking of a do-nothing Congress, how many days did the last Congress meet? And what did they accomplish?
  http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/27/eveningn
  Or for more details on the stats, see:
  http://www.sunlightfoundation.com/files/Days_In_Se
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Hobe
Jan. 13, 2007, 5:44 p.m.
Barack Housain Obama, King Housaine former president of Iraq,
Osama Bin laudin??? Karic Azie....
Bill 'I did not have SEX with that woman' Clinton....
Jennifer Flowers, Kathie Willie, Paula Joans, Monica 'the DIRTY Dress' Lewinski, etc... Vince Foster, White Water Fraud..
Ted 'the Mark Spitz Of Chipaquatic' Kennedy????
America's fineist... What a Shame???
Sincerely,

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  not2needy
  Jan. 13, 2007, 5:53 p.m.
  Hobe, you are a racist and a bigot!
  I suppose you think Bush is an American asset, an American ass is more like it!
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  K10House
  Jan. 13, 2007, 9:26 p.m.
  Hobe - All I can say when I read a comment like yours is that I hope the Dems will work as hard on improving our educational system as they have on other measures so far this session. Just out of curiosity, what do any of the people you mentioned have to do with Barack Obama's intelligence, good will or abilities? And if you think that those people's behavior somehow reflects on Obama's, then how could you ever vote for a conservative again given the shameful and deceitful behavior of so many of them in recent years/months?
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Shakespeare
Jan. 13, 2007, 6:17 p.m.
Hillary Clinton is confusing age with experience. She has six years in the Senate, a career with the Rose Law Firm, and a stormy 8 years as First Lady, which is not a job. Barak Obama is fresh and has as much employment experience as Clinton. Listen to him. He can think. He's not afraid to answer a question. He is warm and communicative and has the right values for America. If he runs, we'll support him.
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simonsez
Jan. 13, 2007, 6:37 p.m.
What was that word ... gravitas! Neither have it! They will both screw up between now and then and be eliminated.
They are already making poor stategy judgements. They should give Bush what he wants and keep the war in his corner for two more years. If his plan doesn't work, It will then be his war when he leaves.
Instead they will try to get us to leave by withholding funds and constant complaining.
By 2008, the country will believe the dems lost the war for us and take the blame for that loss forever.

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  Beau7890
  Jan. 13, 2007, 7:52 p.m.
  simonsez: gravitas? I haven't seen a lack of that ever prevent anyone from becoming president. Don't really need to think too far back for an example, either.
  As for your third point, it's EXACTLY the Republican strategy, even though the war's already lost. When will you learn the Republicans care absolutely nothing about the good of the country (much less the world), and that every policy they make is calculated to keep them in power?
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fotoman1133406
Jan. 13, 2007, 7:35 p.m.
Guys,
Please say it aint so. Billy Boy, was bad 'nough, but now we got Hillary wantin' in. Wonder what she'll do(sex wise) in the Oval Office?
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1-2-Oscar
Jan. 13, 2007, 7:46 p.m.
Obama is running for vice-president, no more and no less.

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  K10House
  Jan. 13, 2007, 9:27 p.m.
  1-2 Oscar - Why are you so sure about that?
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  LordyLordy
  Jan. 13, 2007, 10:33 p.m.
  Obama will be the choice, and Hillary will be the running mate for Vice President. Then after the elections she'll have him whacked and become President. Takes no rocket scientist to unravel that one? Then Nacny Peloski can become VP?
  
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    1-2-Oscar
    Jan. 13, 2007, 10:37 p.m.
    It is evident that you are no rocket scientist.
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bigdidyo
Jan. 13, 2007, 8:57 p.m.
It's early but I don't see anyone in the republican party that I feel comfortable with. On the other hand...what are the Dems thinking?? The 2 front runners are probably unelectable. 1 is black with no experience and the other is a waffle woman. Throw all the racist/gender remarks you want at me but I'm just being a realist.

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  K10House
  Jan. 13, 2007, 9:32 p.m.
  bigidyo - With thinking like that, we'd still have slavery and women wouldn't have the right to vote. On Monday we have a national holiday in honor of a man who inspired to us to judge by the content of one's character; just maybe Americans crave that deep down. And what do you mean 'no experience'? Who told you that? I know you didn't get it from checking out the man's record. Perhaps if you take the time to listen to him speak on the issues, you'd see that he's quite a realist himself, and not nearly as unelectable as you think. And besides, he's not 'black'; he's mixed. And smarter than anyone I've heard in Washington in years.
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  LordyLordy
  Jan. 13, 2007, 10:41 p.m.
  Hey, the Republicans ran Bob Dole against Bill Clinton. Anyone could see the outcome of that election before you even voted. Mind you Bob Dole wasn't that bad of a congressman, but he couldn't give a public speech to save his soul. It was like having a speech contest with Jerry Falwell and a person with a speech disability. Jerry knows how to deliver a sermon and a speech, so did Bill Clinton. Jerry is cool, calm, and collected about his thoughts.
  This country needs to look for leaders, not just good speech makers. Sometimes our best leaders didn't have a X in all the squares but in the ones where it counted, both Democrat and Republican. I personally liked Jimmy Carter but he was surrounded by idiots. Gerald Ford was a good president. I doubt he would have been elected, in fact he had no aspirations of it, until he held the whitehouse.
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aniokly
Jan. 14, 2007, 4:33 p.m.
You are right. The Democrats did not win an election as much as the Republicans lost. Now the Democrats have 21 1/2 months to prove their win was not a fluke. So far the Tuna Queen is not doing so well.
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Hobe
Jan. 14, 2007, 7:09 p.m.
Not2need...
Please Do Not use Vulgar language, it exposes your lack of Refinement and Education, You Can Do Better??? If you disagree, that's fine, however, please offer some intelligent thought on why you disagree... You may not comprehend what I just wrote, and that's OK... try to respond in an intelligent manner..
We want to hear from You???
K10house...
I agree with You, Lets all hope Who ever is elected Dems, Reps, Independents, etc.. will perform in behalf of the American People, Not Special Interest...
Washington is a very corrupt City...
'Thank You' for your respective responses...
Sincerely...