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Posted by: Neophile 1 year, 9 months agoGeorge Bush is preparing to make a historic shift in his position on global warming when he makes his State of the Union speech later this month, say senior Downing Street officials.
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spkguy
Jan. 14, 2007, 2:24 a.m.11/09/05 FOX News Poll: Global Warming
"NEW YORK - Most Americans believe global warming exists and a majority thinks it is a major problem - if not a crisis, according to a recent FOX News poll. Even so, less than half think they personally can do anything about the problem."
Most Americans believed global warming exists over a year ago, what took him so long to figure it out?
I will wait for the next slogan, or will it be:
WAR ON THE ENVIRONMENT!
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jeffery1
Jan. 14, 2007, 7:42 p.m.Come on, enjoy this at least. Think about all those right-wing know-nothings. What are they going to do? First the administration reversed its attack on wildlife and put the polar bear on the Endangered Species List and now they admit something must be done to reduce our emissions of greenhouse gases. Those morons have fewer places to run.
I suppose that the argument that we will lose jobs if we conserved are pretty hollow seeing that they were already lost due to free market capitalism and free trade.
The only thing I agree with the right-wing freaks is that China should not be excluded from reducing emissions. Just because we were irresponsible doesn't mean that they can be or the world can afford their emissions. All developing nations should be forced to reduce too.
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betruthful
Jan. 14, 2007, 9:48 p.m.Are all conservative females good looking like dike girl Ann Coulter?
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ybdogsct
Jan. 15, 2007, 2:21 a.m.BEEFJERKY WROTE:
"Nuke, Sheahan, Pelosi and Boxer. Now! Besides a quick cure for Global Warming, it would certainly alleviate Global Uglyness!"
I'll take Sheehan, Pelosi, and Boxer over Foley, Haggert, and Abramoff any day of the week.
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coreyspring
Jan. 14, 2007, 7:33 a.m."...meaning that, for the first time, American industry and consumers would be expected to start conserving energy and curbing pollution."
Hope it's not too little too late
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lfergie812
Jan. 14, 2007, 8:31 p.m.Excuse me for being cynical, but for them to admit the fact now after years of denial, there has to be something on the table for his contributors such as nuclear plants for electricity or maybe a tax break for the electric companies to build windmills generators. LOL
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betruthful
Jan. 14, 2007, 9:50 p.m.ALL scientist not being paid by corporate interest agree with Gore ( about globel warming anyway )
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lfergie812
Jan. 14, 2007, 11:28 p.m.Bashing Gore is not going to make it go away. What are you going to say when Bush addresses global warming in the State of the Union message and ask American to conserve energy?
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doppich
Jan. 14, 2007, 8:11 a.m.On the chance this is true, will he spin it as another "We were never stay the course?"
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lfergie812
Jan. 14, 2007, 11:30 p.m.No! He'll just say that he never denied that there was global warming, he was just misquoted.
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YingYang
Jan. 14, 2007, 10:49 a.m.global warming, that's crazy liberal talk, they are anti-american.
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betruthful
Jan. 14, 2007, 9:51 p.m.Now I know someone took over Ying yangs computer! Ying, are you OK?
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uncleT
Jan. 14, 2007, 11:10 a.m.Well whether it's crazy liberal talk or not, now is the time to start down a new path for energy needs. The old saying you should never put all your eggs in the same basket still applies. We have been so consumed with the oil leg, (referring to a three or four legged stool) we have squandered our position as a world leader since the 1973 oil embargo was our first wake-up call to use the vast R&D engine of this country to produce alternative energy resources and methods.
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deathray
Jan. 14, 2007, 11:13 a.m.I wonder how it will be positioned; acknowledging global warming and personal sacrifice against the forces arrayed against us are diametrically antithetical to the Adminsitration's positions on same for the last 6 years.
We've hard a lot of ideological rhetoric and positioning. Will the environmental community so readily embrace the President's words at this late date?
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enharmonix
Jan. 14, 2007, 11:35 a.m.I doubt it. I think there are too many people that just hate Bush, period. If he disagrees with the left, he's either evil or stupid (or both). If he agrees with the left, it's either a trick (cuz he's evil) or weakness (cuz he's dumb). Either way, Bush just *cannot* win with some people.
One thing I always admired about Bush was that he seemed to understand that as President, he is the *one* elected official who represents *all* of us, regardless of political affiliation. While I don't think he'll ever budge on abortion or terror (his conscience wouldn't allow it), I do think he's always been pretty flexible in his domestic policy and isn't afraid to try new things or make concessions. Frankly, even though I don't always agree with him (as a conservative), I do at least think that he is behaving the way I think a president ought to - acting in everybody's interest as Head of State/CIC.
You're right though, we'll just have see how this all plays out...
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bubba2
Jan. 14, 2007, 12:04 p.m.Hmmm ... I'll believe it when I see it. In spite of what enharmonix said, if Bush does take a stand that America does need to make changes to reduce global warming, I certainly won't criticize it. I may want to take his temperature (to make sure he isn't running a fever) but I'll be happy to hear it.
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lfergie812
Jan. 14, 2007, 8:42 p.m.Spade
You left out the letter O at the end of that word in brackets. LOL
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YingYang
Jan. 14, 2007, 12:42 p.m.I think Bush spoke to god again, and this time he spoke in spanish
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IAmMine
Jan. 14, 2007, 12:56 p.m.God I hope this is true, although I really don't think hes going to do anything about it. I think hes just trying to save face now that he doesn't control all of congress. Wait and see I guess, but at least he acknowledges it.
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DeltaX
Jan. 14, 2007, 1:05 p.m.Clearly, soda-pop is a huge source of CO2, yet no one talks about banning it. Why is that?
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krayzdrayzor
Jan. 14, 2007, 1:13 p.m.Well, I think we should just sit back and listen to what he says during that uh, the messa...no state...oh that speech he's got to give each year...
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Searunner52
Jan. 14, 2007, 1:44 p.m.I just wonder how many lies and false promises he will make this time!
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THOMNH62
Jan. 14, 2007, 1:38 p.m.scientific data on this subjrct is extremely subjective depending on your bias, in the 60's we were all going to freeze to death in 20 yrs, now Al Bore wants us to believe we are going to explode in a firey death, while the temp in the northeast " my home" has been above average this yr, last yr it was the opposite, so who's to believe that we are causing or can do anything to effect the outcome of mother nature.
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Searunner52
Jan. 14, 2007, 2:03 p.m.I would tend to say that the scientific data on this topic is far more conclusive than subjective. The overwhelming majority of scientists that work in these areas have all clearly stated that the earths climate is rapidly changing, in a strong part because of the actions of its inhabitents, and not because this is a natural cyclical thing. The few, and I emphasis few, scientists that have come out with contradictory positions can be directly linked to those corporations and industries that have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo! They are more interested in doing only what effects their bottom line and not the environment! Your reference to Al Gore clearly shows the position you have taken and to base your comments on by two years is shallow in the least! I too have lived in the NE and can well remember the Atlantic Ocean freezing for miles, in some cases off shore as far south as the southern tip of NJ. I can remember 110" of snow in MA a little more than (cont)
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not2needy
Jan. 14, 2007, 2:26 p.m.At this point did he really have any other option?
I agree with corey, i hope it isn't too little too late.
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ETproductions
Jan. 14, 2007, 3:59 p.m.If Bush takes this turn, I for one will fight any push to label it as flip-flopping. I happen to agree with John Kerry on this point. Kerry recently said that, "There's something much worse than being accused of "flip-flopping": refusing to flip when it's obvious that your course of action is a flop."
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samsara15
Jan. 14, 2007, 3:59 p.m.If Bush changes his position on global warming, get ready for multi-billion contracts for environmental repair for his buddies in the energy business. Even so, it would be good news. Exxon is dropping funding of its own 'hired guns' anti-global warming scientists, which is also good news.
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Bkumm
Jan. 14, 2007, 4:56 p.m.Why do you think Rachel Carson is burning in Hell? Paul Ehrlich was merely trying to update the work of Malthus.
Just because we don't understand everything about something doesn't mean we shouldn't try to understand it. Plus, we can see some trends.
Why does everything you write have to have some sort of nasty comment in it? Can't you make your point without name calling?
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kctrixter
Jan. 14, 2007, 5:16 p.m."the arrogance of LIBERAL MAN or SHINNING MAN! if you prefer, that we can understand the true nature of nature is stunning"
I think that the fact that they don't know exactly how nature will handle things in every way is why they are so scared. Have you ever played Jenga, you never know until it's to late, when the whole thing will come crashing down, or which way it will fall, thats what makes it a game. I think we should stop pulling out the little wooden blocks until we know exactly what we are doing. because this isn't a game we can afford to lose.
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Watchemoket
Jan. 14, 2007, 10:35 p.m.Gee, GV, you really have a nasty chip on your shoulder. Maybe you should try to take a nap and cool off before you post. A rational, calm argument usually makes a better and more credible impression than name-calling and ALL-CAPS YELLING!
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Ratskii
Jan. 14, 2007, 11:02 p.m.I think I like his comment, "everyone thought that the world was round, everyone was WRONG." best.
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Searunner52
Jan. 15, 2007, 1:48 a.m."BEWARE the enviro-idiot who promotes alternative energy! he really means HORSE AND BUGGY!"
What a truly stupid statement! Dammed few people in the environmental movement in this day and age are "Luddites!" who advocate doing away with all the benefits of a technological society, but there are better ways to approach things.
More energy from the sun falls across this Nation on a daily basis that all that has been produced by the use of fossil fuels and yet dammed little is being done to harness that power. R Buskminster Fuller stated in his work "Critical Path" that were we to simply place low-wind turbines on the top of every electric transmission tower we would reap more energy than we could consume in a quarter century!
There are scores of alternative just like this that are available to us and while individually they may not solve our problems collectively they certainly can!
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