New Poll Shows Majority Wants Universal Health Care »
Posted by: TheVisionary 1 year, 5 months agoWith nearly 47 million American's left without health insurance, the country's health care system is in a state of crisis according to some. Now a new poll shows that over the years the support for a universal federally funded system has grown year over year.
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JR121801 year, 4 months ago
universal health care will be opposed by the doctors because it will make it more difficult for them (maybe) TO COLLECT THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM THE PHARMACUTICAL
COMPANIES LIKE THEY DO NOW BUT MONEY WILL OUT
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bill29361 year, 4 months ago
With rationed care being a failure elsewhere, why would anyone want it here. Here is a plan, California is going to institute a state run single payer insurance. Lets give them 10 years and see how it fails.
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DoerNotASayer1 year, 4 months ago
Why are Americans so enamored with meaningless buzzwords that come out of the right wing echo chamber. "Rationed care" is a perfect example. Wake up, bozo, we have rationed care here. It is rationed to the rich and those with good insurance, with insurance companies taking 30 - 35% profit right of the top.
I have good insurance and it still took me 3 weeks to see a doctor. If that is not rationed then I don't know what is.
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aniokly1 year, 4 months ago
There are 300,000,000 people in America. 47,000,000 have no insurance, so insure the 47,000,000 and leave the rest of us alone. People are dying in England, and Canada, because they are on lists that may take a year or longer see a Doctor, or to recieve treatment. No. No National Healthe care. If you are satisfied with your Healthcare register, and vote out those who would destroy it.
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DoerNotASayer1 year, 4 months ago
"People are dying in England, and Canada, because they are on lists that may take a year or longer see a Doctor"
Yet another right wing echo chamber lie. People in our country are dying because they can't see a doctor as well.
In many catagories of healthcare, the U.S. doesn't even rate in the top 25, while England and Canada is at the top. Polls show that generally the population of England and Canada is more satisifed with their healthcare system than we are.
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DoerNotASayer1 year, 4 months ago
Another right wing myth. Your right, Canada does have a pay system as well that is excellant and cheaper. So why would any Canadian have to come here?
The opposite is true, US citizens are going to Canada for drugs, companies are moving facilities to Canada (i.e. Ford) because healthcare costs are not so out of control. Plus, it is becoming very common for US citizens to travel to another country to get better and more affordable healthcare services.
Why don't you learn the facts instead of making them up or regurgitaing lies from some oxy-coton taking a-hole.
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aniokly1 year, 4 months ago
Any American who truly needs medical assistance can go to any Hospital and get attention. That is the law. You just cannot go running to the Hospital for a runny nose, or cough drops. No, that is not a lie. My daughter goes to Toronto twice a month, and talks with people who live there, and listens to their Healthcare woes. If they can afford it they come to America to be seen. So if they can be seen, looks like an American could find a Doctor to see them. I have never had to wait to see a doctor, or have hospital care in my life.
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ETproductions1 year, 4 months ago
Here's a newsflash for the Right Wing "America has the best healthcare" echo chamber. If you are one of the fortunate ones here who does have good health insurance, guess who is baring the cost of that care for the uninsured.
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DoerNotASayer1 year, 4 months ago
As ET states....Who is paying for all these people who show up at hospitals without insurance or ability to pay? We are.
Since we are paying anyway, wouldn't it be better to find a way to pay that DOESN"T include insurance companies increasing costs by 30-40 percent?
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Changingconstant1 year, 4 months ago
"Any American who truly needs..." Anyone who requires medical care can go to the hospital and recieve treatment.
There is no law regarding what you get treated for, runny noses allowed.
It costs the US millions of dollars when people who can't afford standard Dr's visits to go the ER and for many that is the only way for them to get treated.
The quality of care suffers for everyone when people are getting care in ER and only really require an office visit.
Preventive measures save everyone time and money as do Follow-ups. If you can't afford the 'upfront' costs of Dr's
we (anyone else who gets any healthcare) all pay for it in the end.
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foksipayne1 year, 4 months ago
Yes they can if they need emergency treatment. And then they are charged $600 for a doctor to look at an infected tooth & prescribe antibiotic, when the person can't afford that bill OR the $$$ the dentist will charge to fix the problem!!!
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bill29361 year, 4 months ago
Another point about the British and Canadian systems. How they are paid for. Note the gas price in England and Canada vice the US. If you are upset over gas prices today, add another 50 cents in taxes and see what it is like.
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DoerNotASayer1 year, 4 months ago
Man, you really seem to be flailing about seeking justifications for your position.
Bottom line is the US system is out of control. It is way more expensive and way less effective than systems in other developed countries.
I am not saying a purely government system is the answer, but reform/change is way over due.
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aniokly1 year, 4 months ago
I like my Healthcare just as it is, and my husband worked hard all his life to provide the family with healthcare. Why then should he pay taxes for the non productive so they can just walk in for free cough drops, and kleenex, and reduce the quality of healhcare for the people who pay. If you want health care for the poor, and the pitiful fine,let the government provide for it. but don;t destroy the healthcare for everyone else. Walter Reed is Government Healthcare.
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foksipayne1 year, 4 months ago
thanx for paying X-tra so I can REPEATEDLY go to the ER for something that could be stopped if I could afford the insurance
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Amazing11 year, 4 months ago
On this tort reform idea, there are egregious actions on both sides of the fence. There is the doctor that amputated the wrong leg. There is the patient who was found at an accident and the doctor preformed an emergency tracheotomy which saved her life. She sued because she had a scar. So, yes, there are doctors who make mistakes and there are patients looking for a chance to sue. If you're going down the tort reform road, you must concommitantly set up a system for the errors that are made by incompetent doctors. Surely, the person whose leg was amputated in error should be compensated.
As for universal health care, yes, we need to do something. Just last week I read a story about a young boy who DIED because he had an abcessed tooth for which he could not get treatment because his family had no insurance or money. It spread to his brain. He DIED. That's just not right.
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nostalgia1 year, 4 months ago
Something needs to be done about medical malpractice. There are cetainly cases where incompetent doctors need to be sued and REMOVED from the profession.
BUT just look at John Edwards
During his 20 years of suing doctors and hospitals, he pioneered the art of blaming psychiatrists for patients who commit suicide and blaming doctors for delivering babies with cerebral palsy, according to doctors, fellow lawyers and legal observers who followed Mr. Edwards' career in North Carolina.
"The John Edwards we know crushed [obstetrics, gynecology] and neurosurgery in North Carolina," said Dr. Craig VanDerVeer, a Charlotte neurosurgeon. "As a result, thousands of patients lost their health care."
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DoerNotASayer1 year, 4 months ago
Right....Bush arrested US citizens and held them indefinatly without charge, they were wiretapping phone calls without warrent, they were "dissappearing" people to black site prisons, the FBI under Bush was rummaging through personal records without cause, the fight Bush put up about having a 9-11 commision, and lets not forget the little ol' war he started based on lies.
But lets forget all about that and worry about them liberals trying to address something three quarters of the population sees as a serious problem.
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foksipayne1 year, 4 months ago
Quality? There are many who HAVE the insurance, BUT bythe time they are seen Whatever was ailing them is either gone, or GOD FORBID so bad it cannot be cured. mmm i likes me sum kwalitee
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nostalgia1 year, 4 months ago
That was something which surprised me. My kids just recently finished college or grad school. Both have their first full time jobs. They both told me about other young adults they work with who opted not to take health care coverage because they didn't want to pay part of the cost.
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DoerNotASayer1 year, 4 months ago
The 47 million is a fairly accepted figure. What is usually not explained is that about 10 million are illegal immigrants, and about 10-15 million are in flux (they recently had a job with healthcare and will probably have one again). The rest are chronically without healthcare insurance because they work at low paying jobs like Wal-mart.
The claim by some on these posts just aren't true (i.e it is the pitiful and lazy). Those are the government dole ALREADY have government healthcare. The real problem are those who are trying or willing to work but cannot find jobs that provide health insurance.
There are plenty of cases where people are willing to work, but give up a job and go on the government dole to make sure their family has health insurance. When you have that going on, and people still claim our health care system doesn't need reformed....all I can say is that they are living in oxy-coton Limbaugh land.
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nostalgia1 year, 4 months ago
Reform is one thing - a government run system is something else.
They can't even make the State Children's Health Insurance Program (S-CHIP) run as intended. This program was for children in low income families. Some states run out of money year after year. When they finally held hearings in Congress, they found that in some states are not following the rules: "Governor Perdue added that children must be the priority population for S-CHIP. He expressed concern that some states are covering adults, a population Congress never intended to cover when it created the program, while other states, like Georgia, do not receive the funds needed to serve the target population, children."
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DoerNotASayer1 year, 4 months ago
Of course it is easy to find problems and flaws in any thing. Right now our healthcare is costing 30-40% more because of the high insurance overhead.
What is better or worse, some government bureaucracy or a bunch of greedy corrupt insurance executives running the show. (Insurance companies denying treatment for no good reason has been documented time and time again. Some insurance companies deny a certain percentage of claims as a matter of policy, just hoping most will go unchallanged.)
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foksipayne1 year, 4 months ago
My children are onwelfare healthcare.AND my hubby and I are together and working. I have not had regular healthcare, since i lived with my parents. I work 40hrs, my husband 30hrs per week. still can't afford health ins.
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Harbeas1 year, 4 months ago
Why is America pretty far down the list for human longevity?
If our medical system is so good, why? It's time we took a good look at other ways of dishing out medical care.
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texangelwings1 year, 4 months ago
No human being should be without healthcare! This is suppose to be a civilized world, and yet I have seen our quality of healthcare start going backwards, not forward. Over the past century we had actual cures for many things, vaccines were developed for many diseases like polio,(who remembers seeing people in an ironlung on tv?) Smallpox was no longer a problem in the early 70's, vaccinations were no longer required and is now back? Last century a doctor would treat a patient before asking for money or payment. Most doctors let patients pay what they could afford to pay, as long as payments were made regularly. (Not anymore!)
We should not even have to discuss this lack of healthcare issue, not in this year of 2007, everyone should have healthcare!
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aceofspades11 year, 4 months ago
What is wrong with Right Wing America? They have subverted the American Dream as I was told it was when I was growing up.
Older Americans cannot enjoy the twilight of their lives because of the financial burden of trying to stay alive.
We pay high prices for energy not because of excessive taxes as in other countries, but because of excessive co. profits &the Right thinks it's morally right.
Presciption drugs are higher here than any other country & the Right says thats OK because the drug co.s need research money- does that mean we have to subsidize the research for other countries too?
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infideldawg1 year, 4 months ago
"We pay high prices for energy not because of excessive taxes as in other countries, but because of excessive co. profits &the Right thinks it's morally right."
--Really? Next time you go to the pump better check on how much of the price per gallon goes to taxes, and how much of that same price goes to the oil company as profit margin.
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aceofspades11 year, 4 months ago
Many doctors make less in insurance payments & have excessive insurance costs. A national healthcare system would be no change in financial status for most of them.
Sure, you have to wait for elective procedures in countries with national healthcare, but you can buy private insurance to cover you for any level & 47,000,000 others could enjoy a better life. Thanks Right Wingers- for nothing
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aceofspades11 year, 4 months ago
infideldawg if you are still up & not yet passed out from the last six pack - if wanting to give some quality of life to those who's lifes' savings are being raped by the drug co.s & high private insurance rates, those trying to raise healthy kids with minimum incomes, then I must be a socialist.
BUT- I'll never rise to the socialistic heights of gov't programs like - Amtrack, farm subsidies,corporate tax relief,health care for congress, energy credits & so on & so on.
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infideldawg1 year, 4 months ago
Don't get me wrong...I would love to see everyone have affordable, adequate healthcare...just not government provided with the inevitable tax increase that would accompany it. Additionally, I don't believe the government would get it right...whichever party is in power. Any government provided healthcare should, like welfare or food stamps, be an emergency safety net for those who have a demonstrated inability to afford it any other way, not just a lack of desire to pay their own way. And yes, I know there are people who can't afford health insurance, in addition to those for whom it is not a priority come payday.
And please don't type too loud...I have a hangover.
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