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Posted by: populist 1 year, 5 months ago

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Benedict has put his finger on the crux of Bush's flawed and simplistic gnosticism. Iraqi society is not pure evil. Nor is America - which Bush sees personified in himself as the "Decider" - pure good. The claim might serve a useful propaganda purpose, but it is dangerous if taken seriously.

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    lvrofwolves1 year, 5 months ago

    Yeah! he's a 'decider' all right...everytime I think about him saying that, and many other things, it cracks me up...on the surface-cause in life you need laughter, but down below, it's sad. I AM THE DECIDER!

    Wow! did Bush really say that Iraqi people were pure evil?????

    If so, jesus I sure hope the Iraqi people did not hear that.

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      Bopi3651 year, 5 months ago

      Bush lives in a two dimensional world, either that or he is just demented.

      Put on the white hat fellows and lets round up the bad guys

      Us against them

      but God is on our side.

      Heathens

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        dandt16121 year, 5 months ago

        He's in his own little kingdom world. His mind. That's scary!

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          nikkibabe1 year, 5 months ago

          Shiite Iraqis who constitute 86% of Irqai population either demonstrted or supported the demonstration demanding US leave Iraq.

          "When Iraqis stand up, we will stand down".

          Well Mr. Illusionist in the White House, they stood up 2 days ago and asked you to leave.

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            espse1 year, 5 months ago

            I wonder what part of "GET OUT" the bushycons don't understand. Yet they are steadfast, like the slave owners that died for their cause, or the southern cons that wouldn't let blacks attend white schools, or the cons who wouldn't let women vote. Truly a pack of rabid hyenas. Reminds me of the Jim Jones cult.

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            miklkit1 year, 5 months ago

            This is a very good article. I hope the republicans read it and take it seriously. The implications are scary. Very scary.

            http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0513-29.htm

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              MonkeyBiz1 year, 5 months ago

              Thanks for the link miklkit. You are right, it is pretty scary. This guy is really out there. How in the world did he become the president of the US?

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                ETproductions1 year, 5 months ago

                "It is very interesting that Bush's self-perception as being a spokesperson for God is history repeating itself when compared to other leaders who have wrought so much war and destruction. Should people of religious faith be comforted to know we have a Presidential Prophet of God in the White House? A self-described decider of what is best for our country? Is it God who is really directing Bush's policies of aggressive war, torture, domestic spying and the unprecedented transfer of social wealth from the country's working class majority to the multi-millionaires and billionaires that make up its financial elite?"

                Not if it was God speaking through Jesus in the sermon on the mount. "No servant can serve two masters," Jesus told his disciples. "For either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon." [Matthew 6:24]

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                quackpot1 year, 5 months ago

                Poor George - only if he knew that "the voice of God" that was speaking to him was just Cheney on the intercom.

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                not2needy1 year, 5 months ago

                miklkit, That was a scary article! It makes me wonder what his next move may be in order to continue on the course he has chosen.

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                  Obaku1 year, 5 months ago

                  Never let the facts interfere with your prejudice.

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                  paulzimmerman1 year, 5 months ago

                  bush is no king and not the "decider" of anything except

                  when he is going to do his next "job" which involves his

                  butt in contact with a toilet seat... :>)

                  it is "we the people" here and it is past time for people

                  in this country to start speaking up.

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                    crespi1 year, 5 months ago

                    Sorry miklkit,

                    the only thing the Ultra-Conservative Fundamentalist Christian Republicans take seriously is how to maintain their absolute power base.

                    Ethics, the law, Democracy, human suffering mean nothing to them and in fact are only seen as means to further their control.

                    Impeach.

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                      MonkeyBiz1 year, 5 months ago

                      On the news yesterday, it was reported that graduates of Pat Robertson's "law school" had seriously infiltrated the justice department civil rights division. They are responsible for reversing the opinions of career attorneys that the mid decade redistricting in Texas was discriminatory.

                      These people are scary and bent on making the US a Christian theocracy.

                      Americans need to wake up. It is not Islamofacists that are the main threat to our freedoms.

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                      ChefEOD1 year, 5 months ago

                      What I read is a statement that such an act is pure evil, not that all of Iraqi society is evil. Some of you folks sure know how to take a bone and run with it.

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                        lvrofwolves1 year, 5 months ago

                        ." He then offered his military audience a new definition of the situation in Iraq: "It's not a civil war, it is pure evil. And I believe that we have an obligation to protect ourselves from that evil."

                        If he had said the people who did that!, are pure evil-I'd agree. But he said specifically the Iraqi society is pure evil.

                        Maybe that's not what he meant- you know he says many things he doesn't mean. :-/

                        I wonder if the Iraqis could sue him for defimation, or libel.

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                        ETproductions1 year, 5 months ago

                        He said about the fighting in Iraq, it's not a civil war, it is pure evil."

                        With 970,000 dead, our own civil war was anything but civil. Civil war is an obvious oxymoron. The Bosnian genocide, the genocide in Darfur, these are civil wars, and they are all filled with hate and gore and evil.

                        The fact is that the Bush Administration through Douglas Feith cooked the intelligence, ignored a great deal of contrary advice from the US Intelligence community, launched an illegal war of aggression in Iraq, and the evil represented in that car bombing was unleashed by Bush's own hand.

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                      Disulfate1 year, 5 months ago

                      I'm always suspicious of a person who claims to really be

                      good....especially George Bush.

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                        skyking2p1 year, 5 months ago

                        I just watched this guys speech to the vfw on CNN and it must be one that was written 3 or 4 years ago. Same sheite different day. He is so simple minded. The sad thing is there are still thoughtful people in this country that support him. Impeachment now.

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                          crespi1 year, 5 months ago

                          MonkeyBiz- and anyone else

                          You've probably seen it but there is a "150 Pat Robertson Grads In the Bush Administration" thread that could use sensible commentary.

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                            keinkampf1 year, 5 months ago

                            Those ungrateful Iraqis obviously don't realize that we are killing them and destroying their country for their own good!

                            They must be liberated from themselves!

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                              Dionys1 year, 5 months ago

                              Unfortunately the RepubliCons won't take it seriously. Why? The people who put Bush into office LOVE the idea that the world is so plainly black and white. They love the idea that we are 100% good and our enemies are 100% bad. Because that's the only way they can justify taking hundreds of thousands of innocent lives, including children, through supposed "collateral damage."

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                                rickcb1 year, 5 months ago

                                A couple of months after Bush leaves office he'll go off on a cocaine and Jack Daniels binge, and they'll find him running naked through the streets of Crawford Texas screaming "I AM THE DECIDER!"

                                The man is a lunatic.

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                                  not2needy1 year, 5 months ago

                                  LMAO!! I got a visual on that and i almost cracked a rib laughing!!

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                                    JustCallMeV1 year, 5 months ago

                                    I actually had a visual on that comment, but he was covered in crude oil and a WWII flight cap!

                                    -V-

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                                    Fisherman4511 year, 5 months ago

                                    Bush's radical position has put Americans in a shooting barrel in Iraq, Iraqi civilization in jeapardy, the Middle-east in termoil, and America at the bottom of the list of world leadership capability and statesmanship!

                                    I am ashamed every time I see "dub-ya" smiling as he walks in front of the camera. With approval rating below 40% for the last 7 months, how can he continue to resist the will of the American People?

                                    Perhaps his daughters could help out in some small humanitarian way by volunteering in the "green" areas of Iraq? We would surely recognize their gift of time and consideration of the Iraqi People's need. Perhaps, Bush and his spouse could lay awake nights sharing the worry that thousands of other parents have ... night, after night, after night, after night.....

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                                      shyanbelle1 year, 5 months ago

                                      Populist, you spend all day searching for anti bush crap online? Dude u seriously need to step away from the I hate Bush Blogs and take a look at reality for a change. Im sure through the delusion you and your organization are engulfed in may be hard. But why don't you try to find some thing that actually shows some good in America for a change.

                                      I swear. You people really HATE the USA. One day your time will come. One day.

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                                        espse1 year, 5 months ago

                                        To continue to support this insane administration is to hate america. In fact, its worse than just hating america, its actively supporting a regime that is destroying america.

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                                        IanFraigun1 year, 5 months ago

                                        There is a great deal of good in america. Unfortunately GWB and his Iraq war are not among the good things.

                                        You want to talk about good give us a different subject to speak about. You need a topic try the North Shore Animal League in New York which rescues abandoned pets and either finds them homes (after medical attention and spay/neuter) or cares for them for life. Now that is good and I will gladly join you in that discussion as though I live in California I sent them money automatically each month for their good works.

                                        You need more talk about the missions that serve food and provide beds to the homeless, the Salvation Army and the good they do and right now especially the USO for what they do for our troops both here and away.

                                        If you want good get out of a thread that speaks about the worst in this country cause you can't change the underlying data in these threads which are the worst the country and its government has to offer.

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                                        simonsez1 year, 5 months ago

                                        The usual poor article from populist, but it gives you Bush bashers your "fix" for the day.

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                                          rickcb1 year, 5 months ago

                                          Delusion Confronts Reality? I wouldn't exactly go that far; granted Bush IS delusional...but is the pope so grounded in REALITY? I mean the man is wearing a cruise missle for a hat, he wears a dress...and his purse is on fire!!!

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                                            ChefEOD1 year, 4 months ago

                                            ET & Ian, Let me try and explain this to you. There are three types of people in the world; sheep, wolves and sheep dogs. The sheep do not even want to know that danger exists for them in the world, they simply want to get their share of the best grass and have a warm place to sleep at night and they will NEVER do anything to protect themselves or those around them. The wolves can take the sheep standing two feet away and the rest will still do absolutely nothing other than a little bleating. The wolves will ALLWAYS kill and eat the sheep and they will never stop without a sheep dog intervening. The sheepdog exists to protect the sheep, they do not know how to do otherwise, they will never look the other way, they will ALLWAYS go after the wolves.

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                                              ChefEOD1 year, 4 months ago

                                              We were given multiple reasons for going into Iraq. Everyone who eventually agreed on that action had their reason that to them was logical and right. I agreed with many of those reasons but for me the primary was to remove a bloody dictatorship and give the Iraqi people an opportunity to decide their own future. I am a sheepdog, I know no other way than to fight the wolves. People wonder what gives America the "right" to be the world's policeman. We have no such right, we have an obligation to stand up and protect those who cannot or will not protect themselves. Since its conception America has always stood in the gap and fought the wolves because we were made that way by virtue of being given the ability in mind and body to fight the wolves. If you and others are not sheepdogs that is well & good, that is how you were made. But do not expect those of us who are sheepdogs to lie down and let the wolves of the world continue their slaughter - it will not happen.

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                                                Bopi3651 year, 4 months ago

                                                Wrong chef

                                                while I cannot debate your own personal reasons for wanting to invade, the reasons this Admin gave do not in any way mirror yours. this is only the current version as to why we are there.The latest update.Spin. Are we to believe that an Admin who cares little to effect policy domestically has such heartfelt desire to do so abroad.

                                                Wolves and sheepdogs

                                                You forgot farmer brown and his shotgun. you forgot market prices of wool and acceptable losses caused by wolves.

                                                You forgot that wolves have been hunted to near extinction due to farmer browns policy of eradication and that wolves help maintain the natural balance. you forgot that sheep graze grass down to the roots which is partly why cattlemen despised them. etc.......

                                                This is the problem with george. Life is not that black and white.

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