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Bush: Democrats need to drop Iraq pullout demand
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Bush: Democrats need to drop Iraq pullout demand

Politics – President Bush, prodding Congress to extend the Iraq war without calling troops home, said Monday that Democratic leaders owe it to veterans and their families to pass the war-spending bill he wants.

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How many Americans does Bush want kill. I hope he and his gang are tried and hung as criminals

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El Quida is now infiltrating the blogs !.... and the minds of weak Americans, I sadly have to say.

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El Quida?? Sounds like a Spanish restaurant.

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And 'quackpot' sounds like ....

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EARTH TO BUSH EARTH TO BUSH COME IN BUSH CAN U READ US?

Nobody save a few brainwahsed neocons think this war has any value for anybody,,,the iraqis dont want the war,,,,73% of america dose not want this war,,,actually the only people who do want this war is the 27% hard core bush followers and alquieda...So why do republicans support alqieda? is it because they are suni? is it because the saudi are suni?

How many dead burnt boddies will it take to make republicans happy? I remember when clinton was going into kosovo and then gov bush said "we demand to know your exit stratagey" and tom delay said "what will you tell the mothers when teh body bags pile up" Good thing for bush that repubs have very bad memmories. oh yeah and lets not forget when newt said "no war for monica"

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EARTH TO BUSH EARTH TO BUSH COME IN BUSH CAN U READ US?

Nobody save a few brainwahsed neocons think this war has any value for anybody,,,the iraqis dont want the war,,,,73% of america dose not want this war,,,actually the only people who do want this war is the 27% hard core bush followers and alquieda...So why do republicans support alqieda? is it because they are suni? is it because the saudi are suni?

How many dead burnt boddies will it take to make republicans happy? I remember when clinton was going into kosovo and then gov bush said "we demand to know your exit stratagey" and tom delay said "what will you tell the mothers when the body bags pile up" Good thing for bush that repubs have very bad memmories. oh yeah and lets not forget when newt said "no war for monica"

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Halliburton, Exxon, the Saudis, AlQueda and BinLaden want us there (they're somebody)

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y'kno if we are sooooo fed up with this illegitimate war(where them weapons at Bush????????) we should be protesting against this war,and if Congress and the President doesnt listen to us we need to rebell(not with weapons and killing, but diplomatically)

call me unpatriotic if u want but im sick and tired of teens lives being wasted over revenge(desert storm,ppl) and oil......

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Your thoughts are those of a TRUE PATRIOT..

I can see your tears and feel your saddened heart~

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Not for nothing, You can not tiptoe through a war and be effective without a great loss of innocent life and troops. It's pure fantasy. Great wars were won by total destruction! In Iraq, We can't see the enemy. They are among the civilians. They operate under stealth. How does one sift them out? Bush and his administration has no clue or a good plan to win this war. Now we are faced with a dilemma. The truth is, Nobody has a plan to be successful in this war without killing more innocent civilians. Now drafting maybe necessary? Is that really the answer? It did not help in vietnam! Will history teach us anything? America is in over it's head, It's total destruction or bust! Obviously we can't do that. We need to get out, and concentrate on securing our own boarders. And try not to let another clueless president into office Before we can win any war. We first have to fix our own government. Most of all, Put someone competent in the white house.

GOD HELP US ALL!

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We can only wish that George H.W. Bush would have PULLED OUT...

Barbara Bush's womb... playground of satan...

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lol i would advise to bomb the place if wouldnt cause ww3

i agree we need to get out ,let the iraqis sort out their country(like they will peacefully) come back get all these illegal aliens out fix the deficit to a reasonable amount(maybe clinton time totals) and give us blacks reparations for slavery.......

no seriously give us reparations

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chris117619 - You already received you reparations in the form of killing whitey. O.J.Simpson scored two points and many others scored so get over your bigoted self. You will never recieved NADA so don't spend it.

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Don't worry too much about Chris, he is just justifiably frustrated!

He really isn't a biggot...He's against the same MAN that we see as destroying our precious world..The real biggots who wouldn't help New Orleans, but who profit from a war..

We all deserve better..This is not the American Dream..That's what we all believed in!

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Just War

The law differentiates between initiating the use of force--jus ad bellum--and how force is used in war--jus in bello. To satisfy the law governing the former,

1. the use of force must stem from a cause that is just

2. Be motivated by right intentions.

3. And be authorized by competent authority.

In addition, four tests must also be passed:

A: the use of force must have a reasonable chance of success.

B: Be expected to produce a net balance of good over evil,

C: Be a last resort.

D: Peace, finally, must be the expected outcome.

The Charter of the United Nations, moreover, takes jus ad bellum another step, requiring that the use of force always and exclusively be in self-defense.

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flyonthewallzz.

Good analysis.

You are pointing to the essence of the problem.

If president Bush and his team had the same degree of philosophical, legal and moral analysis you expose, we wouldn't be in this imbroglio.

If the White House is persistent on this mistaken conflict, which side of the civil war are we fighting for?

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nuke Bagdad, and ask questions later. But pull our troops out first.

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The Democrats have admitted the errors of their ways, and are doing their best to correct this situation.

The neocons can only say: You are for us or against us. And: stay the course.

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Might as well pull out tomorrow.

Then the US can get shamed into going back in after the real civil war starts and those shameless bastards in the White House will get permission to lock the country down.

Then the exploitation of oil begins.

You heard it from the Sage.

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wasent oj aquitted i mean dang how long are we going to drag it out with him?

when have blacks went on massacres killing whites?

please give me an proven example.

if america can give them indians land and big money why cant we?

if america can give japanesse ppl money for being imprisoned for just being japanesse why can we?

i mean no true monetary value will replace the racism and slavery scars but at least can we get something?????

if mexicans can come in with ILLEGALLY with drugs and not get punished at all ,then why when a black person is caught with drugs we throw them in jail and dont even TRY to fix them mentally???? i say try to fix the addicts and throw the kingpins and dealers in jail.

i hate thst blacks sit around and talk about whites but the second somebody says somthing slightly racist we blow up and all the black "leaders" go crazy.ans vice versa.

we talk about stopping rap fully but, really how are we going to stop a whole industry nonviolently???

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We need leaders..Your points are all well taken..Until we realize that "humanity" is filled with humanswho have feelings and needs (like food), not different people who try to take from one another, we can move forward. There is too much stuggle for power and control for mankind to reach the full potential

that it first began with. We are out of control.

If this were a marriage we would need an intervention.

We are in a sad state, but those of us who still try to make the world a better place should never admit defeat.

We must still keep trying. EVERYONE deserves dignity, unless they prove that they do not!!

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Know anything about Nat Turner - learn your history!

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Mexicans are industrious and are now taking all those jobs the blacks despise, its being to good for them, welfare and drugs are easier to acquire.

As I said, yes your ancestors were slave, you aren't so quit using them as an excuse to ask for something for nothing. Get a job like us all, no you will not get a job as a CEO but its a start. So the racist card is over. Overcome your bigotry and make something of yourself without blaming whitey.

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they talk about the videos that rappers put out

but why only go after them? While we're at it go after the porn ppl(hugh hef,larry flynt,the joe dude that created ggw,u can see girls kissing each other in the middle of the day on their comercial). its so easy for a child to get to this stuff on cable(check cinemax'snight listings).i wont even mention how much easier it is for the internet.

how far are ppl gonna go ban models(a black man on cnn was talking about replaceing the sign holders in boxing matches)

if u go after 1 go after all

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We need to be able to discipline our children..We need to teach them that every wrong deserves a punishment..We need to give our children a chance to experience a childhood..

Rap, video games,cell phones, instant messaging etc. is fast forwarding their opportunity to have a childhood.

It has nothing to do with race..it has everything to do with accountability..You're right about a Mexican or any illegal who commit crimes..If they commit a criminal act, they are criminals..if they do so as illegals, they should be imprisoned for double the sentence. (but not sent back)...We send them back, they can come back again and commit the same crime or worse..Right?

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i making somthing of myself thank you.

about those ancestors, sooo the successors of indians are free from that rule right???

the school system that my county has is desinged to take one test,whites are statistically better at test

one test can make u or break u, back in the day ppl were smarter they didnt have the pressure of one test that makes u grad or not grad.one test to see if u are the next bill gates or the next k-fed

and im not factoring in things like halo and ipods and others

even i play games like gears and its fun but i see ppl on live for 20 hours straight sometimes i mean comon dont u have other things to do???

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I think we should allow ancestors of slaves to have CASINOS..

(only kidding)..believe me, the American indian nations are still in very rough shape..They were just fortunate enough to

be on land away from the corrupt Anglo-society..

Life on their land is no bargain..

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People Build Countries

Not Governments

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Folks, weather we pull out or not pull out we are still cheneyed! thats F***ed for you that speak the kings english. Why? because we bit off way more than we can chew.

All this episode will do is create a much more dangerous future with N. korea unchecked, Iran up and coming soon! What we need is a NEOCON army. Thanks right all you conservatives are hereby drafted...report tomorrow and go FIX IT!

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yes but what if the majority is corrupt or is looking out only for them selves????

the minority is ignored

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"The families gathered here understand that we are a nation at war," Bush said. "Like me, they wish we weren't at war, but we are. They know that the enemies who attacked us on September the 11th, 2001, want to bring further destruction to our country."

Did I miss the memo where Iraq was directly responsible for 9-11?

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Our US Army needs money!! I know the "democrats" are trying to help but the election is just right around the corner, giving us a president to take us out anyways. Meanwhile, my husband, a US soldier, and many others are not getting the supplies they need. Him and everyone in his company are suppose to get 9mm, but they can't afford it. They get short handed on supplies. Soldiers in Iraq are building sheilds for their vehicles out of scrap metal, and even don't have enough body armor for themselves. I want the "war" to end, but in the mean time I want my husband safe and well equipped.

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Our idiot president and vice pres. sent them in under those circumstances..Let's get them home!!

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usmedic - I was in the military and you cannot blame the Democrats for lack of equipment and ammo. Blame Bush, the American people have spoken and the Houses have sent a bill to Bush for his signature. If he refuses to sign the bill by both ignoring the majority of American wishes and the Representatives we have elected, then he, Bush is playing politics with the troops and your husband.

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usmedic-

NelsonR is quite correct in his statement that the fault will lie directly on Bush and not the Congress if the spending is not approved.

It may not be much comfort, but almost everyone feels very strongly that the lives of our military personnel are not to be trifled with. Please don't think that all of us are uncaring. We care very, very much and we want the troops equipped and supplied. As a matter of fact, the whole point of this standoff is that the American people as a large majority want the troops home now, not two years from now.

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Bush is a moron..What more must he do for you to finally realize it?

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"The families gathered here understand that we are a nation at war," Bush said. "Like me, they wish we weren't at war, but we are. They know that the enemies who attacked us on September the 11th, 2001, want to bring further destruction to our country."

Did I miss the memo where Iraq was directly responsible for 9-11?

The memo where there was an "intellegence failure"???

u mean the memo where our gov told bold-face lies to our faces??????

why dont we come home and fortify our defenses against our "enemies"

i feel for u usmedic i hope they pass a spending bill that will get u and ur hus more armor and things to live

but i want yall to get out asap

they have a truck that can withstand the roadside bombs but we dont have the funds.

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Chris117619

My response was satirical. Sad but satirical. Shrub went into Iraq to create a Walker Texas Ranger legacy and wound up looking like Custer on the battlefield. What was Custer's problem? a lack of troops,Intel... and weapons that jammed. Shrub hoped that we could divert fanatics world wide by choosing this place as a battlefield,but now that things are so stirred up... well GOD Bless our troops for their sacrifice.

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if our dems are trators then why are they trying to get us home?????

i dont really care if the "enemy" i just want the war to end

good night all

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I am not sure why the Neocons are afraid of a timed pullout. I thought it was stated long ago by OBL that his ultimate goal was to bankrupt the USA. It is my belief that even if you try to pull out you are going to find yourselves again attacked in such a manner as to give a reason to retain your army there. AQ is watching you spend about 2 billion a week in Iraq and you are doing their training and recruiting for them, there is no way in hell they want you to ever leave the ME. They also know that with the high surviveability rates of todays combat for the US that you are going to be paying for disabled vets for 60 years or so. You may have to cut taxes by 50 percent to pay for all the future costs.

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You know, I'm getting pretty sick of Bush suggesting that compromise is a one way street!

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Let's surprise them and make them wonder what we'll do next..

After all, why can't the greatest nation in the world make their army mobile enough to seek them out of every crack and crevice (like roaches) instead of trying to bait them like mice? (it hasn't worked)

Let's smoke out BinLaden and show then how great we really are!!

The Romans could find Jews hiding in caves..we can do it too!!

Let's go to Afghanistan and finish the job!!!

That would be a VICTORY!!

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Well Bush can use his own money or send his own daugthers to support that stupid war, my brother just left Iraq and he lost many friends and saw many die there, there is no point on this war, instead of this wasting of money He should use it to help the homeless and mental ill who are left on the streets because of the Vietnam and other equally stupid wars!!!!!!!

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The Democrats are the voice of reason right now. They need to keep pressure on this administration to end the misguided policy in Iraq. We need to get the troops home.

We need to work on restoring the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and rule of law that has been trampled by this fear agenda.

Let's work on winning the peace and respecting human rights.

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I think there is a priority in the sequence of pull-outs that has been grossly (NPI) overlooked. First, there are people on both sides that need to extract their cranium entirely from their rectal orifice (aka pull-out), open their eyes, then clean out their ears. (so far only their mouths have been the only operational organ).

Write your rep's!!

G'nite.

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As far as owing it to veterans and their families... I'd rather not have to pay more taxes to pay for furhter, unnecessary survivor benefits, thank you.

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history lesson:

The Fall of Saigon.

dont any of you know our history?

we lost in Vietnam.

And Vietnam is just fine thank you.

all your doom and gloom over us pulling outa Iraq is nonsence.

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We need to bring our troops home and we need to find out why authorities failed to act when credible threats were known before 9/11.

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mamasan - Could not have said it better, please call Bush and Cheney and remind them of Vietnam. Also remind them that their idiots.

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President Bush was elected by the people, and by the largest number of votes ever cast. Only the people can fire him, not the do nothing Democrats, not dirty Harry, or that traitor Nancy. Even that old potatoe head Carl Levin knows he has to support the troops soon, or face angry voters.

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