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Two government officials acting out of their conscience to expose President Bush's plans to bomb journalists are found guilty.

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berkeley1 year, 3 months ago

the state secrets law strikes again. when will we have one?
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  earthlingerer1 year, 3 months ago
  
  Just think what he's doing and trying to do in his own backyard...
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    miklkit1 year, 3 months ago
    
    Here is a little history........
    http://www.globalcomplexity.org/Deathbyassociat...
    Thr republicons are mass muderers.
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      SheSheWin1 year, 3 months ago
      
      Saying republicans are mass murderers is like saying all democrats are wife cheating lying scumbags. It is not fair to group all of one people in together. Lets be mature and leave the immature name calling out of it.
      Not all people of the Muslim faith are murderers. Not all Germans are/were murderers (as not all Germans were/are Nazi). Not all of any one group of people are completely alike in all of their beliefs.
      Although I am a proud card-carrying Republican, I do not judge all democrats by the actions of one or of a few. I try to let each person's own character and actions speak for themselves. I would appreciate the same respect.
      Besides, Hello! Abortion = Mass Murder! However, I feel that only the ones who have actually committed the abortion(s) have committed the murder(s). Not all democrats believe in abortion, just as not all republicans are pro-life. I know that is a little off subject, just an example of my opinion.
      Thank you for letting me share.
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        MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 3 months ago
        
        Yeah, the Republicans are kind enough to let the fetus be harvested for 18 years so we can send it off to die in Iraq!!
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        JasonVA1 year, 3 months ago
        
        Wow, I just realized that either Netscape is either occupied by mostly of liberal left wing nut jobs or citizens of the weak nation of France. Looks like I should go download firefox. Im all against the administrations policies in Iraq, but this is over the top. Sounds more like a radical militia in here than fellow countrymen. Of course, a radical militia would have a small bit of power, I dont believe any in here has even a small peice of it. Just the ability to appease our enemies. Winston Churchill once said "The people who appease the alligator gives it food in the hope that it will eat them last." I may disagree with my president, but I will not appease my enemies and join the ranks of the alligator to bring shame on my leaders and my country. Such a disgrace if you are an American, if you aren't American, your opinion has no place and no value in American politics anyways.
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        ret25usn1 year, 3 months ago
        
        I have to disagree with you. I am not appeasing our enemies. And I will point out that I believe President Bush's policies are bad for our troops and country. If you believe that is un-American, I think its the wrong view. After this much time, when failure to speak up lead to the mess we have, well thats your choice.
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        MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 3 months ago
        
        jason,
        This president picked a fight in Iraq
        and is now asking those with lesser
        intelligence to join him in defeating
        the enemy he picked a fight with..
        (and emboldened them)
        You suggest we say nothing?
        I suggest that you tell him to give 100%
        (instead of the pathetic 20% effort)
        to getting BinLaden (the real enemy)
        as he PROMISED ALL OF HIS CITIZENS
        and the rest of the world that WAS with us.
        Much of the world is no longer with us because he
        is a liar and a fool!
        Saying nothing is equal to watching our nation being
        destroyed piece by piece at the hands of bad government!
        Please join all of us who seek a better world and
        a truthful President!
        Doing nothing is almost as bad as making it worse.
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        JasonVA1 year, 3 months ago
        
        I agree that our president has made terrible decisions regarding our interests in Iraq and displayed disregard for tracking down Bin Laden, but I will not go as far as calling them murderers and I won't go as far as believing there was this big conspiracy to kill journalists and that they were responsible for the WTC attacks as some has said. I am a democrat, and I believe the republicans have weakened this country on all aspects. But, we must still remember we are a country and calling our current president a "murderer" is only displaying our ignorance in majority of electing him the second time and giving strength to our enemies.
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        JasonVA1 year, 3 months ago
        
        That strength that is given to enemies does not hurt the administration, but it hurts the troops on the battlefield. I may not have much respect for our president, but I do have infinite respect for the brave troops, who do not pick and choose their battles, that are voluntarily putting their lives on the line for this country no matter if an enemy was invading at home or if it was in a tiny nation called Iraq. It IS good for every citizen in America to speak up about what they believe and to promote their view on what they think is right. However, I do not believe people should fall in line behind someones idea that has no factual truth and has no sense of civilized argument other than name calling. That is what, I believe, seperates us from most of the world and consider everything else, un-American. We are built upon a nation of ideas and comprimise. Your thoughts displayed here leaves no room for comprimise and offers no solutions to our nations current dilemmas.
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        ret25usn1 year, 3 months ago
        
        I don't think we are that far apart on our view. The story is about two British public servants who released information that Bush and Blair discussed bombing Al-Jazeera. They have been charged with violation of the British Official Secrets Act, and face jail time. That Blair talked Bush out of the idea as bad all around is a good point. That Bush considered bombing a press agency, even as biased as Al-Jazeera is, shows lack of understanding of the area. Seeing to it that people note his lack of understanding, and press there elected reps to push for a "BIG" change of direction is my goal. Not name calling. Thanks.
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        JasonVA1 year, 3 months ago
        
        IF the democratic party, my party, would have built a foundation for comprimise and offered real solutions to the current problems concerning our enemies, we would have not lost the presidential election in 2004 and would not be debating this at the moment. Name calling and smear campaigns do not work in America and, I hope, more central democrats will realize this and not sway to the far left agenda in the next upcoming election.
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        JasonVA1 year, 3 months ago
        
        I would also like to point out that, during his presidency, Abraham Lincoln was called every single name in the book by people in the North and South and was hated even more than our current president by more than few even in his own party. No one realized the greatness of his presidency until long after the civil war and his assassination. Now, I'm not saying GW is comparitive to Abraham Lincoln, but only history and the people of tomorrow can be the judge of his tenure in the White House. Not the people of today.
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        lfergie8121 year, 3 months ago
        
        "Now, I'm not saying GW is comparitive to Abraham Lincoln, but only history and the people of tomorrow can be the judge of his tenure in the White House."
        Lincoln was disliked because of his stand against slavery and his fight to keep the federal government stronger than the individual states. Bush under the pretense of fighting terror invaded Iraq for personal reasons.
        http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/09/27/...
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        MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 3 months ago
        
        We only have today right now..
        Get us ut of Iraq..
        Move over to Afghanistan so
        they won't be undersupplied too!
        Get BinLaden..
        Regain credibility for actually accomplishing something that the world agrees with,
        and if worse comes to worse,
        we'd still have 125,000 troops next to Iran..
        An eight year old come devise a better plan than Bush..
        But, he never listened to our miltary minds
        unless they agree with him.
        Goodbye Colin and 14 other generals!!
        hello Betray us (I mean petreas) the only general ignorant enough to accept the job!! Or is it cowardly?
        You just stand around and keep waiting for history to
        prove that you shouldn't have stood around!
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        MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 3 months ago
        
        So you say he "made a terrible decision"
        ..then you compare him to Lincoln.?.
        who,by the way, was re-fighting the British for our
        independence on OUR SOIL!!
        In case you don't know, the British tried to win back the colonies in 1812 and again in 1860..
        The French helped us all 3 times..
        Iraq is an occupation of choice..Not a war.
        The original enemy is in Afghanistan.>
        Can we finish that old score before we get any
        deeper trying to clean up this mess WE created?
        We can go back there after we get BinLaden..
        The old Roman legions
        could have pulled him out of a cave..
        Why can't we?
        are you saying the countyr will be harder to occupy if insurgents who are butchering eachother are still there??
        Don't worry, they're not going anywhere>
        They've been there for 4,000 years, odds are pretty good they'll still be there after we get BinLaden!
        At least that's how a real Democrat would think!
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        miklkit1 year, 3 months ago
        
        I'm a hard hat construction worker who has spent many a year walking steel. If you don't like my talk, then maybe you should listen to these people.
        http://www.votevets.org/
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        buzzsaw1 year, 3 months ago
        
        Thanks for the link miklkit. These vets are the true patriots, not the chickenhawks in office.
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        Lurch1 year, 3 months ago
        
        >IF the democratic party, my party, would have built a foundation for comprimise and offered real solutions to the current problems concerning our enemies, we would have not lost the presidential election in 2004
        BS. The Dems were the only ones who offered compromise and real solutions, not just more death, more hidden taxes, more terrorists attacks on GIs, and more corruption both in Iraq and back here at home.
        >Name calling and smear campaigns do not work in America
        If that were even half true Dubya would still be remembered as nothing more than utter failures as an oil exec and baseball vice GM. Rove won the Texas governorship, the 2000 primary and the 2004 election precisely on negative, name calling, smear campaigns.
        I have yet to hear the Bush admin offer a single realistic solution to Bush`s war in Iraq, just a bunch of wannabe-patriotic BS.
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        miklkit1 year, 3 months ago
        
        Are you sure it was ignorance that got bush elected?
        http://www.rollingstone.com/photos/gallery/1046...
        http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/du...
        http://nightweed.com/angrygirl.html
        http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334...
        http://www.hbo.com/docs/programs/hackingdemocra...
        
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        KingOfTruth1 year, 3 months ago
        
        If you rely on those sources for info, then you rely on real ignorance....
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        miklkit1 year, 3 months ago
        
        Dispute the facts.
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        dunkirk1 year, 3 months ago
        
        ROFLMAO, they cant and wont. BushBOts are in a bit of a muddle these days. Its getting increasingly more difficult for them to switch topics (it just leads to another Bush scandal) and FACTS just aren't supporting them, they still reference right wing blogs as proof but people have caught on that they are like diaries, opinion pieces.
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        lfergie8121 year, 3 months ago
        
        If you deny it, you're showing real ignorance. Go to the democratic underground story and follow the links and explain how that happened. It's certified public record.
        A report you won't find on faux news.
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        dunkirk1 year, 3 months ago
        
        Imagine you pop up when the talk turns to real ignorance.
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        lfergie8121 year, 3 months ago
        
        And who were you before you got banned? They got banned because they used abusive language and abused the navigators of Netscape.
        "Fiction and fact have very little in common on NEtscape."
        Get a life. Every story on Netscape was written by someone else and not Netscape and most are articles from national news sources.
        The Republicans seem to only post from conservative web pages that didn't have much creditability or were opinions. They seem to post a lot of shemale Ann Coulter's articles that were anti-liberal everything. That's why they left so they could blog among themselves.
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        johnsox1 year, 3 months ago
        
        You're surprised someone named Libssuck got banned? If I changed my user name to Conservativesblow I would expect to be banned, too!
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        dunkirk1 year, 3 months ago
        
        "Netscape liberals have free reign to publish, post and say the most inane, inflammatory comments. When you call them out and throws facts at the liberal rhetoric, you'll get a message from someone like Neophile disguised as someone else calling you every filthy thing that can come to a puny mond."
        Wow so all those PM's I get after blasting Bush and the REPUBLICANS are really from liberals?? And liberals have free reign to post and sane the most inane, inflammatory comments? I never realized FSU or KOT were liberals. DOesn't that beat all.
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        Leemck021 year, 3 months ago
        
        Churchill also said "the truth is a precious thing, but sometimes have to be shrouded in deception". Can we agree these type deceptions make enemies for future 9/11's? We value freedom of information, as Americans. We the People are the "Deciders"; seeing all the blame for bad intelligence to spawn the Iraq gaggle, can this be justified? Left or Right wing, would you authorize our military to go into a friendly country and bomb anything, not to mention a NEWS ORGANIZATION? Forget who the President is, would you be okay with the fall out from such an action? Acting so, do you suppose we would be the terrorist in Qatar? Say more about where shame comes from? In this information age, do you think our nation's involvement would be undiscovered; are we so blatant not to care being globally known as the culprit that bombed a friendly nation? When do we become the Alligator, one expecting others to be appeasing so we will eat them last? Alligator tail is a delicacy.
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        dunkirk1 year, 3 months ago
        
        Yeah just the REPUBLICANS who set the course of the party are mass murderers. Altho it is interesting that you never condemn them in your post.
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        decipher1 year, 3 months ago
        
        oops, i gave you a before i realized that your thought process had been aborted.
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        johnsox1 year, 3 months ago
        
        Dear SheSheWin,
        Shame on you for your opposition to free speech. First of all, miklkit said RepubliCONS (referring to neocons) are mass murderers not Republicans. All neo-cons are Republicans but not all Republicans are neo-cons. Neocons believe the US is the center of the Universe and our culture and way of wife should be worshipped and adopted by everyone and they will let nothing stand in the way of that objective. There are a growing number of traditional Republicans who are seeing the light and looking upon these neocons with a healthy skepticism.
        Besides, Hello! abortion=abortion. All laws throughout history pertaining to human rights refer to the rights of the born. Both the born and unborn have mothers, all mothers are born with rights to control their own bodies. Abortion=mass murder is your opinion. It is my opinion therefore that it is the right of the mother to decide and the emotional and physical consequences of her decision will be carried by she.
        PS Happy Mothers Day!
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        DEMONSLAYAR1 year, 3 months ago
        
        you make a good point,,,so now if we could just get the good republicans to speak up and help us get rid of the bush administration through impeachement maybe democracy will have a chance in america
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      miklkit1 year, 3 months ago
      
      There has been a massive amount of death in Iraq, and the only reason for it is money. You republicons cheered when our Army invaded. That makes you accomplises. Enjoy your blood money.
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        KingOfTruth1 year, 3 months ago
        
        Actually the massive deaths occured before the invasion....1.5 million dead women and children there while Clinton was in office....and 99% of the dead there now are the result of other terrorists instigating the violence to get the attention of the insane leftwing US press and losers like Sheehan....
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        miklkit1 year, 3 months ago
        
        Are you talking about these terrorists?
        http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-573452...
        They are American mercenaries.
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        JasonVA1 year, 3 months ago
        
        Wrong. Those are South African mercenaries there on behalf of a South African security company. Shown here on Youtube.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IJnbvO74K8
        You should check out a story before you go and blame Americans. And I'm sure if you were in Baghdad, knowing all the car bombs that happen there on a daily basis, you wouldn't want a vehicle coming near you either. Clearly they are warning shots. Any other propaganda that conveniently fits your arguments?
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        miklkit1 year, 3 months ago
        
        1. Who is paying them?
        1. Those weren't warning shots. Those vehicles, and possibly people were hit.
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        JasonVA1 year, 3 months ago
        
        1. A South African security company is paying them.
        1. (Again, for some reason???) They were warning shots and you'll see as the vehicles come even closer and not slow down or back off, they fire at the cars. If it meant my safety, I would do it. It's easy to put things under a microscope without feeling or being in the situation they were in the comfort of your home on the computer.
        2. Are you sure you graduated the third grade?
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        JasonVA1 year, 3 months ago
        
        My 6 year old cousin can count to two. Or did you really learn the numbers game from this childrens television show? Hmmm
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv3dvYhFk_Y&watc...
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        dunkirk1 year, 3 months ago
        
        " A South African security company is paying them."
        Odd it didnt say that in the video now did it.
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        lfergie8121 year, 3 months ago
        
        King
        Once again you tell tales out of school. Without any sources to back up your words, they are moot.
        Did you know that George Bush single handedly killed 2 million people last month in Iraq?? Two can play that game.
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        johnsox1 year, 3 months ago
        
        Dear King of Opinion,
        Before you throw more stones at Cindy Sheehan, tell us how many children you have lost in the war.
        As usual you forgot to mention the multitudes Iraq killed as our ally against Iran and vice versa. Many were killed via our weapons, funding, and propaganda that one can only assume was the result of changing loyalties in order to stick with the projected winner or a foolish attempt to encourage mutual genocide between the two nations.
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  tiredofnonsense1 year, 3 months ago
  
  We do, we just don't enforce it , otherwise the press wouldent be fuming over collecting calling patterns
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  Redneck1 year, 3 months ago
  
  The article says "Bush plans . . ." but expressing frustration over the network which supports the terrorists does not translate into "PLANS". Not once in the article does it say that PLANS were made to bomb them and then he was detered by some means. Expessing ideas does not constitute a PLAN!
  To assert Bush did otherwise from the article is junvenile!
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    dunkirk1 year, 3 months ago
    
    Ahhhh there is nothing like these strips in explaining the right wing.....
    http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemi...
    Then again they dont have much in the way of FACT going to refute things.
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      Redneck1 year, 3 months ago
      
      The Strips were funny! LOL
      However in the realm of ideas words do matter. "Plans" are not actions like a rocket into an aspirin factory to deflect the public's attention from Monica and the semen stained dress.
      The article alledges "facts" saying that Bush planned to attack as if a thought is an action. That is purely LIBERAL in that if one's intentions are "right" then one has to be RIGHT even if the results do not match the goal or if one "feels" the right way then one has done something. Thinking good thoughts about the homeless and feeling for them is morally "right" that is liberal. But they are still on the street so the "plans" are less than measurable.
      But conservative response is to feed the hungry, give them clothing and to train them to be employable: result a productive citizen who buys a house!
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        dunkirk1 year, 3 months ago
        
        ROFLMAO, yeah the right definetly got the Monica things didnt they, in fact it seemed they were sooooo caught up in a bj that National Security took second place and was pretty much neglected. Why do you think they attacked after Bush got appointed? REPUBLICANS thought terror was overstated by Clinton and DID NOTHING until after 9/11.
        "But conservative response is to feed the hungry, give them clothing and to train them to be employable: result a productive citizen who buys a house! "
        Unfortunately that MAY be what a CON SAYS the response is, in the world of reality it tends to be "Oh I'm sorry the richest 1% needed a tax break, so we have no way to train you, feed you or help you out"
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  coogzilla1 year, 3 months ago
  
  Lib's are next, so I hear. Their going to round them up
  and toss em in an active volcano. Not to worry. As soon as
  you fall in the molten lava, your free to leave! Amnesty
  dude!!
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    blowback1 year, 3 months ago
    
    Put the bong down and slowly back away, dude.
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tehranchik1 year, 3 months ago

Clarke's a real jerk. Maybe someday this will see the full light of day. Blair and Bush are no better than the leaders of any of these middle eastern countries. This is exactly what happens in any of those countries when they don't like what you print.
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  MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 3 months ago
  
  So when will Bush go after his real journalistic targets?
  The New York Times, Atlanta Journal,
  Austin News and Boston Globe??
  I'm staying out of those buildings!!
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  tiredofnonsense1 year, 3 months ago
  
  The story was discussing the possibilty bombing Al Jazera, In case you havent been paying attention, they are the promotional arm of therorism. They are the ones who circulated all the setup shots of the damage done by Israels response to Hammas. Did they mention the buildings that were bombed were where missiles had been firing from, No, They are not a news agency They are a Propoganda agency.
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    MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 3 months ago
    
    Of course they are..well put!
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    tehranchik1 year, 3 months ago
    
    Are you comparing them to 'fox' here in the states?
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      lfergie8121 year, 3 months ago
      
      The only difference between Al Jazera and Fox reporting is the country they reside in. FOX reports what the Republicans want to hear and Al Jazera reports what the Muslims want to hear.
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        KingOfTruth1 year, 3 months ago
        
        Actually al Jazeera is much closer to CNN in that it helps whomever is the enemy of the US......
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        lfergie8121 year, 3 months ago
        
        Only in your eyes because you don't have time to watch CNN with all your FAUX news time. So how would you know?
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        KingOfTruth1 year, 3 months ago
        
        CNN was started by a commie and has always been the Commie News Net....
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        dunkirk1 year, 3 months ago
        
        Im beginning to wonder if even Faux news admits KOT watches them.....ROFLMAO.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 3 months ago

Where are the ethics of these people?

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  tehranchik1 year, 3 months ago
  
  ani---why is it when the left prints an article you need proof but when it's an article printed from the right it's the word of God?
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    tiredofnonsense1 year, 3 months ago
    
    Probably because the ones accused of being from the right are from actual new agencies, not the left wing conspiratorial stuff that lacks evidents and depends on speculation.
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      tehranchik1 year, 3 months ago
      
      You must be talking about the 'false noise channel' and if that's where you get your news I understand your attitude.
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        dunkirk1 year, 3 months ago
        
        You need to consider one thing about Faux News, if they are your primary news source YOU have a significant chance of having misperceptiopns about the war. Quote--->
        "And the more you watch the Rupert Murdoch-owned Fox News channel, in particular, the more likely it is that your perceptions about the war are wrong, adds the report by the University of Maryland's Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA). "
        http://www.alternet.org/story/16892
        Altho it extends to staff as well at Faux----> Remember the study that found that watching Fox News actually made people less well-informed about Iraq and al Qaeda? Turns out the same is true of people who work at Fox, too.
        The story below has a link to the study done at the Univ of Maryland.
        http://www.newshounds.us/2005/08/24/still_dream...
        THey watch Fox so YOU dont have to.
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      johnsox1 year, 3 months ago
      
      Your implication that all posts from the left have no basis in fact and never come from legitimate news agencies reveals your prejudicial viewpoint as well as your inability to consider other points of view ie, grow as a person.
      Minds are like parachutes. They only work when open.
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  engineer1 year, 3 months ago
  
  never had ant ethics
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    tiredofnonsense1 year, 3 months ago
    
    Oh, were talking about the Clintons now?
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      lfergie8121 year, 3 months ago
      
      Clintons look like Saints compared to the Bushs. The Bush family have a long history of corruption going back before WWII. Daddy Bush defended his boys in 1991.
      http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1992/09...
      http://www.sptimes.com/News/102900/Business/Inf...
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aniokly1 year, 3 months ago

Where is your proof? An article in a loony leftist blog? Not good enough. Democrats are making so many accusations, none with evidence. It worked in 06, we did not find out they lied until after the election. It will not work in 08. We are watching George Soros like a hawk. He bought himself a House, and Senate, but only barely. We won't let him do it again.
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  ret25usn1 year, 3 months ago
  
  There is only one way it could violate the British Official Secrets Act, that is if its true. Not gonna say its true yet, but if some proof of the warning comes through then, yeah its true. I will wait and see, but it fits the Bush profile.
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  earthlingerer1 year, 3 months ago
  
  If the memo was a lie, the case wouldn't fly....how's that for a lame Johnny Cochran?
  Oh, the "Soros conspiracy" again. His only platform is founded on one truth: Bush sucks, and anyone would be better. This has become painfully obvious.
  Yeah he does back anyone but Bush. He also gives free medical aid to the poorest 9/11 health victims.
  Of course, Soros survived the Holocaust. He knows the difference between fascism and freedom.
  
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    tiredofnonsense1 year, 3 months ago
    
    Soros a jew that turned his fellow jews in to the Nazis to save his own life, Has recently been kicked out by europe for insider trading. The man who finances all the radical left groups he can, including one that wants to bring the Fairness Doctrin back to shut up Conservatives. The man is the most dispicable creature and should be shunned by any organization with any ethical sense. Whos platform is leagalized drugs and Prostitution. He should be invetigated and kicked out of the US once and for all.
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      miklkit1 year, 3 months ago
      
      What is wrong with airing both sides of a topic? Why would that "shut up Conservatives"?
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        tehranchik1 year, 3 months ago
        
        There were laws several years ago that protected the two or many sides of any story or subject. We need to bring back the Fairness Doctrine so that all sides can be heard and discussed.
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        lfergie8121 year, 3 months ago
        
        Are you afraid of debate of issues. When a "news" network portrays one party as good and the other as evil, that is not fair and balanced. Lets make all networks let opposing views be broadcasted like it did before Reagan screwed it up.
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        KingOfTruth1 year, 3 months ago
        
        The fairness doctrine was used by the left to shut up the right for many years....people like Walter Cronkite and other leftist in the 95% leftwing news and media never had to let anyone with any other viewpoint speak. It was only when a news show allowed someone to have an editorial that someone from the right got a chance to speak and then some loonie lefty gave a dissenting opinion right afterwards....Fox News Channel gives more leftists a chance to speak than those from the right. The talk radio shows are syndicated and they carry whomever they want with whatever view that they want. If no one wants to hear what they are saying, like on Air America, then the stations won't carry them.
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        lfergie8121 year, 3 months ago
        
        The fairness doctrine was used to place the truth before the public. The right couldn't stand it so they had it changed. CNN and MSNBC are the only fair and balanced networks on cable.
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        KingOfTruth1 year, 3 months ago
        
        The liberal media controlled at the time of the fairness doctrine all of the media. It was only once the fairness doctrine was ended that the right got anything at all on the air, such as a few talk radio hosts and some of Fox News....before that, the views of the right could rarely get on the airwaves...CNN and MSNBC are far left....
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        buzzsaw1 year, 3 months ago
        
        KOT,
        What a crock! What happened to the "liberal media" eh? It is only liberal when it suits you guys. BTW, the media is owned by a handful of right wing nutjobs. Google it!
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        KingOfTruth1 year, 3 months ago
        
        At the time the fairness doctrine was ended, there were no right wing shows on TV at all, except maybe the 700 club. Everything else is left or far left, especially PBS, NPR, CNN, NYT and the rest of the alphabet....
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        dunkirk1 year, 3 months ago
        
        ROFLMAO you posts continue to read like a litany of excuses. REPUBLIUCANS seem to have this paranoia that everyone and eeverything is out to get them. ESPECIALLY when reality conflicts with the stories they present.
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  ret25usn1 year, 3 months ago
  
  By the way, when did the Democrats lie? They did not win a big enough majority to force change. But they did win enough force some light on the process. You make a lot of unproven accusations. I believe more people are starting to see whats really been happening. Mr. "I listen to my generals" got rid of the ones that first told him the truth that he needed over 400 thousand troops for a chance at success. He "retired" them and got yes men whom did not see the big picture.
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    KingOfTruth1 year, 3 months ago
    
    ret25usn:
    By the way, when did the Democrats lie?
    Every time their lips moved....as always....
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      lfergie8121 year, 3 months ago
      
      You have that confused with G H W Bush read my lips, no new taxes statement. LMAO
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        KingOfTruth1 year, 3 months ago
        
        And that was something he never should have done....tax increases always hurt the economy.....
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        dunkirk1 year, 3 months ago
        
        "....tax increases always hurt the economy....."
        No actually run away borrowing and spending like there's no tomorrow hurt the economy.
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  MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 3 months ago
  
  Yeah, you're right..
  Can't we leave Bush alone, he's doing such a great job!
  (for our enemies and those who invested against the dollar)
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  engineer1 year, 3 months ago
  
  This sounds like the blind aniokly who can't see the real world!!
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    MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 3 months ago
    
    All I can see is a bunch of stubborn southerners whose
    grandparents all supported segragation and all voted for Bush still holding the Amerrcan Dream hostage..
    You must love his stand on the open borders..
    Now where are alof those hillbillies going to get work?
    Things have never been worse and we a president telling us how great thing are.. Get him a fiddle!!
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  MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 3 months ago
  
  Apologists have to learn to read (or be willing to)
  before they can refute the claims against the Republicans..(and bush)
  They have to stop spitting in the wind and cursing
  anyone who questions Bush by labeling them a "liberal"..
  They must at least learn to be civil..
  Discussions are supposed to go two ways..
  The great divider has conned too many
  Americans into supporting his divisiveness
  in lieu of good government and debate.
  The first 3 years of "
  if you don't like it, move out" have worn off..
  Typical actions of the ignorant and uninformed.
  If they keep defunding education in the south and
  sreaming at professors and the nmedia
  they won't have any educated folk left..
  Look how the (Confederate)
  I mean "red" states voted!!
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Hobe1 year, 3 months ago

Is it Fair to Say that destroying a propaganda machine in time of War Is Goosd Thing???
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