We Must Return to Our Constitution »
Posted By populist 1 year, 4 months ago in NewsWe the Citizens of America need to return to the rule of law. Not just a law for the masses, no, we need to bring especially those we have elected into compliance with the Constitution - the law governing our government. They were elected for this purpose!
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elel1 year, 4 months ago
Borrowing from Eisenhower, I'm finding America has ceased to be great. For a long time now, a 3rd, 4th party has been needed, but to me, this need seems to be ignored. Oh I understand money is the main factor, but geesh, I'm sure there has to be a way to level the field.
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populist1 year, 4 months ago
I agree. Invading nations, collateral damage, centralizing power, etc - is not what this nation was meant to be.
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populist1 year, 4 months ago
looks like they removed it, but you'd think there'd be a note "this comment has been removed for violating out TOS"
or something??
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KingOfTruth1 year, 4 months ago
So after all of these years of the commie ACLU, hundreds of leftwing activist judges and the neocommie left destroying the Constitution, now you want to return to it? Uh Huh.....
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KingOfTruth1 year, 4 months ago
The Judicial body has as its purpose the charge to interpret and rule on the what is constitutional and what is not constitutional. They are not to make law.
They are not to make law.
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MonkeyBiz1 year, 4 months ago
"There is no authority for Social Security in the Constitution, Medicare, etc.
FDA, BATF, DEA, Dept. of Education, etc."
So you are saying that Article I, sections 7 and 8 no longer are in effect? Is this something else hidden in the Patriot Act?
Why is it that the right wingers have this attitude that any law they don't like is unconstitutional. If a judge or judges also declare it unconstitutional, they are doing a good job and are great men. If there is a law that the right wingers like, and a judge declares it unconstitutional, they are "activist" judges and are "legislating from the bench."
Is civics and US Government no longer required to get a high school diploma?
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foksipayne1 year, 4 months ago
In my school it was,and I barely graduated because I guess my teacher didn't care much for liberal views. There were many in my class who shared views and grades.
sad...
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jaspersneed1 year, 3 months ago
Sorry but goodgrief is right -- the enumerated powers are specific and few. The rest of the document merely provides the architecture of the government itself, while the Bill of Rights specifies the citizens' rights it may NOT abridge.
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MiraJane1 year, 4 months ago
Apparently you do not know what "case law" means.
fyi, case law is as valid as any other type of law.
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tkyrchncs1 year, 4 months ago
I'm in favor of ditching the whole damn thing and calling a new constitutional convention as provided for in that document. I don't think our society even remotely resembles the one that a group of wealthy white Englishmen revolutionaries wrote a constitution for. It would give us something more worthwhile to do than kill people for oil or worry about drugged up heiresses.
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populist1 year, 4 months ago
now THAT sounds like a good plan!!
"But a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever."
--John Adams
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ouijimon1 year, 4 months ago
populist
It is a good plan and high time we got after it.
"But a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever."
--John Adams
Our government has already moved away from Freedom. Our Liberty is ALREADY lost. I want to change it back!!!!
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gfarral1 year, 4 months ago
I have been ranting about the loss of our freedom's under the Constitution for over five years now. My American Legion post refused to back me. My mother thinks everything the current administration does is necessary!
Perhaps it is time for a national convention and a new Declaration of Independence.
As I posted in a class I am taking, government seems to think we exist at their pleasure and not the other way around. Government exists when the people allow it to exist.
Right now I would vote for anarchy vs. what we have.
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populist1 year, 4 months ago
having no federal government would be better than this!
and if it turns out that someone takes charge of the country and starts violating rights, spending our money into oblivion and using violence to kill thousands and thousands of people...we wouldn't be any worse off than we are right now.
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KeyserSooze1 year, 4 months ago
Just what do you think is so bad? We are spoiled pulp rotten, having every comfort and opportunity imaginable.
If you work hard, you will succeed. Your investments are protected, your intellectal property is protected, you want for nothing, and you can say whatever stupid thing you want to about the president and government.
You're free to come and go, do what you choose for a living, if you choose not to work the government will give you food and a place to live.
What exactly do you imagine is so aweful?
I'm having a GREAT life. My investments are growing, there is no crime where I live, I hunt, fish, camp, motorcycle to my hearts content.
My sons school is top notch, my home is wonderful, I can be a huge PITA to my representatives if I don't like what they are doing.
You can't ask for a better deal than this.
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KingOfTruth1 year, 4 months ago
KeyserSooze....They also cannot name any freedonm or liberty that they personally have lost.........it's all just leftist neo commie talking points.....I have been posting in many places since I began posting last century about how the ACLY and the neo commies have been destroying the US and the carping of this phony claim was one of the methods I exposed that they were using.....they still have not even in a new century been able to actually post one right or liberty or freedom that any one of them has specifically personally lost.....
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MonkeyBiz1 year, 4 months ago
Well kingofnonsense, we have both lost the guarantees of the fourth amendment (assuming you use a telephone). Every single call you make or receive goes into a database to be mined for suspicious activity. Every commercial transaction that you or I make by credit card, library card, membership card, etc. that is part of a civilian database is subject to seizure and data mining WITHOUT judicial oversight (warrants not needed). An FBI agent can fill out a little form and present it to your local librarian, PTA, VFW, Bank, or wherever to get whatever they want, when they want it.
Read the fourth amendment of the US Constitution real carefully, and tell me again that all of that is just a "neocommie" (whatever the hell that is!) talking point.
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KingOfTruth1 year, 4 months ago
I have not lost any right. I don't care if the government listens to me or read my email or checks my bank acount because I am not doing anything illegal nor do I plan to so chances are that I am not one of the people that anyone would care about enough to do those things. As to NeoCommie......
For the past few decades, the ACLU has been on a major crusade to destroy Christianity in America, promote filth under "freedom of speech and expression," and of course, vigorously defend the homosexual culture of death. On Jan. 10, 1963, Congressman Albert S. Herlong Jr., D-Fla., read a list of 45 communist goals into the Congressional Record. Below are the communist goals being implemented by the ACLU in their quest to destroy America's culture and traditions:
* Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
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KingOfTruth1 year, 4 months ago
* Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
* Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings," substituting shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.
* Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
* Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
* Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and television.
* Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural and healthy."
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KingOfTruth1 year, 4 months ago
* Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."
* Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
* Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of "the big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the communists took over. Obliterating the American past, with its antecedents in principles of freedom, liberty and private ownership is a major goal of the communists then and now.
* Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture â;; education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
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KingOfTruth1 year, 4 months ago
* Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
Anyone who has been following the destructive path of the ACLU can easily see how effective these communist goals have been implemented to promote democracy and protect your civil rights.
Perhaps it's time to recognize the ACLU as the American Communist Lawyers Union instead of their disingenuous civil rights stage name.
It is inconceivable to me how anyone who claims to be an American, lawyer or layman, could belong to such an anti-American organization as the ACLU.
Congress voted to unconstitutionally fund the activities of the ACLU under the Civil Rights Attorney's Fees Awards Act of 1976. We must demand these public servants in Congress repeal the unconstitutional funding of this subversive organization.
There is no justification under Art. 1, Sec. 8, to steal from the people's treasury to give money to the ACLU or any other organization for "civil rights" lawsuits
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MonkeyBiz1 year, 4 months ago
"I have not lost any right... chances are that I am not one of the people that anyone would care about enough to do those things"
So by your own admission, you HAVE lost those rights, you just don't care about it. You are one of the cowards that would give up your freedoms in the name of security, using the "if you are not guilty, you have nothing to fear" rationalization.
You claim that no one can provide an example of a loss of freedom and your reaction to the example is that it doesn't count because you don't mind losing your fourth amendment rights?
Maybe you hate the ACLU so much, that the rights they defend have become toxic to you. Thousands of Americans have shed blood for those rights you so willingly cast aside. You are not a patriot, you are a scared and angry little person.
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lvrofwolves1 year, 4 months ago
KeyserSnooze-well yippee for you! most people don't live your perfect life, and it's not for lack of working hard, not for lack of intelligence. For some it's a lack of opportunity-alot of children don't go to top notch schools, or are struggling with wroking a 'just enough to keep afloat' jobs because of other circumstances.They don't have enough $ to invest, but maybe just enough to put food on the table for their families. And let me guess?! you are in great health too???
Really you sound like you have much to be gratefull for, wouldn't it be nice if everyone was in your position?
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eddie1071 year, 4 months ago
I can bet you have had it good, because people who have been poor, and hungry, if they are worth the salt in thier tears, they would much rather have a job than a handout.
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SquattyBrown1 year, 4 months ago
Keysersooze.... Congratulations on having everything you could ever dream of, just remember that when you say as you did in another post, "if we dont like it get the f*ck out" that the "Have-nots" far outnumber the "Haves".
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injest1 year, 4 months ago
KeyserSooze, I guess you came from another country? Yes?
You have a perspective of knowing how good something is by knowing how bad it could be.
Most Americans are clueless about that, unless they have lived abroad.
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foksipayne1 year, 4 months ago
@keyser
-My husband and I work hard and get run in circles.
-I chose to do something for a living and can't afford the financing payments to finish schooling for it.
-We work and the gov't doesn't help us keep our home, or keep our children fed, we rely on varios churches and missions 3 months out of a year.
-My sons school says he is very bright, but do nothing to help him advance in his studies, he is learning things we've already taught him.
-And the crime here isn't too bad except 3/4 of the population are meth heads and 9/10's are pot smokers. And I'm including the ones who smoke a few times a week.And we cannot afford to move.
...tell me it ain't so bad here. I am sure there are families if far worse positions that mine.
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Centinel1 year, 4 months ago
You are young yet and nieve. You will learn the truth soon enough.
I wish you luck in maintaining your present properity. Mine was taken from me without my having any control over it by legal theft. I hope you never experience such loss.
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scriblerus11 year, 4 months ago
KayserKaiser:
And you especially love hearing about all those Iraqis and GIs that have been ground to hamburger in the War of Bush's Ego.
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KingOfTruth1 year, 4 months ago
gfarral says: I have been ranting about the loss of our freedom's under the Constitution for over five years now.
OK now...here is an easy question. Please list one freedom which you personally have lost and how. Now please do not carp the red herrings of generalizations...please...an actual freedom that you personally have lost....
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KingOfTruth1 year, 4 months ago
HomeGMan says: And what about open primaries
We had that in California....and you can vote for anyone you want. Just change registrations up to a few days before the primary.....the reason they were stopped is that like here in CA when Red Davis was running unopposed by DemLibs, hundreds of thousands of Democrats voted for a weaker Republican candidate so that Red would win.....
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KingOfTruth1 year, 4 months ago
lvrofwolves Says:
I'll list one! A freedom to make choices based on facts, and not lies. When the people in government lie about things, they steal our freedom to choose.
That is not a freedom lost. You always have had the freedom to investigate the issue from billions of sources anmd make up your own mind.....you do not have to believe what the governemnt says and most of the times I would say don't believe a word.....trust but verify, I believe was the expression....
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lvrofwolves1 year, 4 months ago
yeah right! the average american can just go in and take a look see at secret papers, or how about e-mails and papers that have disappeared? we can investigate every plot, we can read minds, we have built in lie detectors etc....no, when you are lied to, I still say you are robbed of making a choice.
trust but verify??? like that is a realistic choice.
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ProudBlueTexan1 year, 4 months ago
I speak for lots of Americans. Do you ever notice the numbers, KoT?
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ouijimon1 year, 4 months ago
JohnQPublic
I absolutely agree with you on this point. When Gonzales testified in Congress that the Constitution did Not guarantee the rule of Habeas Corpus, we should have stopped right there and started raising a big fuss. I don't know what these people are smoking but they seem to think that they can ignore the Constitution of the United States, the rule of Law and trample the rights of the American citizen.
We need to send a message to the people that represent us as well as the American people that we will NOT stand for this. If a revolution is needed to change the present administration or form of government, then let's get started because short of that, it doesn't look like they will change willingly. And you might ask yourself, why should they change, since they have been successful, so far, in achieving their dark agenda of Empire building, Corporatism and turning the American people into their private cash cow slaves.
Thank you
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foksipayne1 year, 4 months ago
I think the reason a revolution has not begun, or is,as of yet in the beginning stages,is because people know how past revolutions were and are afraid to leave the comforts of their daily lives.
It is like the marriage where the couple hates each other but have otherwise become "comfortable" or Actually stagnant in their relationship so they see no reason to end it.
But this relationship is finally and quickly becoming abusive.What will the American people do?
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KingOfTruth1 year, 4 months ago
foksipayne says:I think the reason a revolution has not begun..
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The reason that a revolution has not begun from the left is that they have almost finished taking ove the country with their neo Commie rules and regualtions and they don't want to risk losing taht.......the reason a revolution has not started from the right is that the right is waiting for the right time to come...paraphrasing what the old USSC justice said...'I cannot describe what the right time look like but I will know it when I see it'.....
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ProudBlueTexan1 year, 4 months ago
I've believed for a while now that a population that is mired in personal debt is very unlikely to make waves or protest the government. Perhaps that is why the government has decreed for so long that home 'ownership' is the American dream. Now most Americans holding mortgages are a month or two away from foreclosure, and afraid to ****** off anyone who could tip that balance.
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foksipayne1 year, 4 months ago
Yeah that would explain the "other half" as well.
Because I KNOW some of these faithful gov't defenders cannot be blind to what's going on.
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Obaku1 year, 4 months ago
I am raising a "fuss' about Gonzales.
I have filed complaints with the Inspector General of the Department of Justice, that he has lied to Congress (a felony), and committed treason (by using force, i.e. armed members of the DoJ, to undermine the Constitution.)
The DoJ has officially accepted the complaints, therefore he is at least nominally under investigation for treason.
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disraeli1 year, 4 months ago
And until the investigation bears fruit, somewhere, in a small windowless office, your file just got a little thicker.
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KingOfTruth1 year, 4 months ago
Obaku says: I am ...fuss
Of course you have no standing to bring any complaints against Gonzales about his conduct towards Congress unless you are a member of Congress. And I actually have not seen tthe events where he used armed members of the DoJ to undermine anything. Now I did see it when Janet Reno used armwed members of the DoJ and also the US military in volation of posse comitatus to massacre US citizens in their own home and church, thus violating many sections of the Constitution. Is that what you are talking about? If so, she has been out of office a long time to try and blame that on Gonzales.....
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Obaku1 year, 4 months ago
Where's your law degree from - Regent U?
So no crime has ever occurred, unless you personally were a witness? MORON!!!!
And what does anything Janet Reno ever did have relevance to Gonzo and his Merry Liars Club? Or were you just changing the subject because you had NOTHING else to say?
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MonkeyBiz1 year, 4 months ago
In Texas, if you break the law you get arrested. If you resist arrest with firearms and kill an agent of the law, you can pretty much expect a shiite load of trouble. If Reno had not done anything about the pedophile, illegal gun dealing Koresh, kingofnonsense would have called her "soft" and a neocommie for not enforcing the law.
BTW, there was military equipment borrowed from Ft. Hood at that shootout, but the US Army did not attack Kingofnonsense pedophile gun runner, and thus no violation of posse comitatus.
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MonkeyBiz1 year, 4 months ago
Ooops! Didn't mean to call KOT a pedophile gun runner. The sentence should have read "...Kingofnonsense's pedophile gun runner..." I left off the possessive "s."
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MonkeyBiz1 year, 4 months ago
"The DoJ does not enforce Texas law, thank you very much"
Didn't mean to imply that they did. Federal gun laws were violated in addition to a few state laws against pedophilia, fraud, and a few other things.
Koresh was given an opportunity to turn himself in and didn't take it. He was told in advance that they were coming to arrest him and they DID identify themselves. He chose to shoot it out with them using the women and children as shields and hostages. Besides being a common criminal, he was a coward, said he was Christ, and molested little girls.
There is a lot of misinformation from the right wing about that incident. The NRA types think it was the guvmint after koresh's second amendment rights, they conveniently overlook what he was doing to bring that down on himself.
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KingOfTruth1 year, 4 months ago
Actualy no federal gun laws were violated except by the federal agent who was inside the house.....and if there were violations of state law, then the Texas Rangers should have been serving warrants.....BTW....why didn't they just arrest him when he was downtown shopping....that way they didn't have to massacre everyone with US Government tanks.....btw...borrowing tanks is still a violation of posse comitatus as was using military helicopters....Generalissimo El Janet Reno just added the lies about the other stuff after they screwed up so badly and massacred everyone......
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MonkeyBiz1 year, 4 months ago
It would be a neat trick to add "lies" to the other stuff before they happened. Read the Waco newspaper, or the Austin American-Statesman for a day to day reporting of what happened instead of perpetrating the right wing paranoia version.
You seem to have a penchant for revising history.
"...borrowing tanks is still a violation of posse comitatus as was using military helicopters..." Only according to you.
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KingOfTruth1 year, 4 months ago
scrible lies again....I never said I graduated from MIT.....I said I started college at MIT taking classes there when i was a freshman in High School.....
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Ciera-Marie1 year, 4 months ago
I meant to give you a positive vote too.
I hate it when the comments start to get this close. It gets harder to read, etc.
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gfarral1 year, 4 months ago
Gonzales in a national embarassment! He was appointed for two reasons: He agrees with the machinations of the sitting President and his ethnic background.
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scriblerus11 year, 4 months ago
The only cockroach around this thread is you, KingOfTurds.
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KingOfTruth1 year, 4 months ago
ouijimon says:
JohnQPublic
I absolutely agree with you on this point. When Gonzales testified in Congress that the Constitution did Not guarantee the right of Habeas Corpus....
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Actually the Constitution says that there is a privilege of Habeas Corpus for citizens of the United States, not a right.....please try reading the Constitution and I'll answer questions on it for you if you cannot understand it....
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MonkeyBiz1 year, 4 months ago
Answer this question...what is the constitutional difference between a right and a privilege? My American Heritage Dictionary defines a privilege as a right. It defines a right as "something that is due to a person by law, tradition or nature." Hmmm... like the 600 year history of law and tradition regarding the basic human right of habeas corpus perhaps?
Sorry, attempting to parse word meanings to produce a false conclusion may work on ditto heads, but you should keep it in-house, it doesn't work well in public.
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KingOfTruth1 year, 4 months ago
Actually a right is an absolute and cannot be limited.....a privilege is something that, while similar to a right, can be limited under certain circumstances.......In reality, the US Congress and the Courts have changed rights into privileges by making and upholding laws that limit the rights under certain circumstances.....see McCain Feingold, for instance a limit on free speech or any anti Gun law which violates the SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED part..........
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MonkeyBiz1 year, 4 months ago
Well that's all a very interesting theory, the constitution spells out when habeas can be limited. Your examples leave much to be desired though. Calling campaign contributions and the ability to buy elections "free speech" is horse hockey.
Calling gun regulations "anti" is merely NRA propaganda. What part of "A well regulated militia..." do you not understand?
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RedRiverJ1 year, 4 months ago
Man John Q you said it brother. The entire lot of them seem to be crooks with an interest only in self. Money, greed and power. Cheap labor and new voting block is what drives this immigration bill. Not compassion like they tell us.
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Linkgmr1 year, 4 months ago
Normally, I disagree with you on issues such as this. However, starting fresh would seem to be a good idea. It seems that politicians today are more concerned about what's best for them, how to cover their own ass, what's best for their party, and how to stay in power than what is truly best for the USA. When is the last time you saw a politician take a real dive defending their principles, what they believe is right rather than aquiescing to what they believe is the viewpoint that is most acceptable to the masses? When is the last time you saw a politician take responsibility for their own actions, rather than pass the blame off to someone else, giving them a dubious aura of infallibility? Throwing them out and replacing them with people who hold the basic ideals of the USA at heart would be a good idea, so long as it could somehow be done without destabilizing the country and making it vulnerable to some big collapse. If you can do that, then I'm in.
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