Gonzales Was Told of FBI Violations »
Posted by: Beau7890 1 year, 2 months ago104 Comments Report this Story
As he sought to renew the USA Patriot Act two years ago, Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales assured lawmakers that the FBI had not abused its potent new terrorism-fighting powers. "There has not been one verified case of civil liberties abuse," Gonzales told senators on April 27, 2005. Six days earlier, the FBI sent Gonzales a copy o
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idyll1 year, 2 months ago
Thanks for your comments, geodesic. Gonzales doesn't care about integrity or justice. He's thumbing his nose at the entire system and doesn't care what kind of lies he tells. He knows he won't be fired. He and all the other Bush flunkies will be laughing all the way to the bank. This appears to be their ONLY goal. It drives me crazy to know that with a spineless Congress running from their Constitutional responsibilities, these people cannot be touched.
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donald511 year, 2 months ago
... I guess you don't think Pelosi would address impeachment even though she knows the real spineless congressmen are the Republican senators that continue to block the possibility of a Bush veto and his conviction if impeached? Every day a few more Republican senators defect the party in favor of the rule of law and their conscience. The real hyprocrisy ringleaders are those like Senator Sessions (AL), Cornyn (TX), Hatch (UT) and that creationist from Oklahoma... even supporting Dubya on the unitary executive, torture that breaks Geneva, Gitmo, and no habeas corpus at Gitmo!
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Endoscopy1 year, 2 months ago
Typical radical liberal slant. Headline says Gonzales was told but the text states there is no evidence that he was given the reports.
Then the Busch haters start their rants.
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injest1 year, 2 months ago
"Gonzales Was Told"
FBI "sent" Gonzales "a copy" of "a report".
Actually his department was CC: on the reports
Each of the violations cited in the reports "copied" to Gonzales office.
That's kinda weak support for a claim that "Gonzales Was Told
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in the land of what the meaning of "is" is.
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santa01 year, 2 months ago
this is documented perjury. DOCUMENTED perjury!
why are impeachment papers not being filed NOW?! How can the one man put in charge of justice in this country LIE to congress and break the law ABOUT how his department has routinely broken the law and still serve in his position?!
what the hell is going on?!
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donald511 year, 2 months ago
...still too many Repug Senators supporting Dumya and his cronies to get the votes for conviction of a House impeachment!
Lots of testimony to Dems during the former Repug Congress that Gonzo also stonewalled investigation of all the reported contractor fraud and abuse in both Iraq and Afghanistan too!
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disraeli1 year, 2 months ago
While I tend to agree with you that it is likely perjury in his testimony before congress, proving it is another matter. Quite simply all Gonzales has to say is "Yes my people recieved those reports bit I personally never read them and was never briefed on their contents. You can't expect me to read everything blah blah blah..." Unless some documents exist from Gonzales to his flunkies that prove he read the reports or one of his flunkies testifies that he told the boss or watched the boss read it Gonzales skates on a charge of perjury.
Perjury requires actual knowledge that your sworn statement is false, that makes not knowing a viable defence. It's obvious that Gonzales doesn't care what type of idiot he looks like, so it's easy for him to say I didn't read it, I didn't prepare for these hearings and I didn't know my sworn statements to be false.
The Senators know the ease with which Gonzales could sidestep a perjury charge, so don't expect any legal action.
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dunkirk1 year, 2 months ago
Unfortunately it seems that the right, who keep screaming for verification on Dumyas lies, illegal wiretapping, politicizing the judiciary when countless stories talk of it and corroborate it, accept THAT story which doesn't seem to be verifiable. WHat a surprise.
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Vehre1 year, 2 months ago
This guy is a disgrace. I saw his former deputy, James Comey, testify several times on C-Span. Now there was an upright, honorable public servant--who got out of this Administration while the getting was good.
National Security letters are like the general warrants that the Colonists rebelled against. Warrants granted without judicial review--bad idea. Making it a federal crime to even make the service of one of these things public--even worse.
Brings to mind a quote by that dangerous radical John Dickinson (who was so conservative he wouldn't sign the Declaration of Independence) who wrote: "Who are a free people? Not those over whom government is reasonably exercised, but those who live under a government so constitutionally checked and controlled that proper provision is made against its being otherwise exercised." That's what our government is supposed to be about. Someone should remind Bush & Co.
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NeoCon1 year, 2 months ago
continued:
"First, our intelligence agencies need flexible authority to confront terrorists, spies, and proliferators and other national security threats. Second, as we seek to protect the national security, we must also ensure that civil liberties and privacy are not sacrificed in the process. This is not a zero sum game, however, as former Supreme Court Justice Arthur Goldberg noted, while the Constitution does protect against invasions of individual rights, it's not a suicide pact."
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joeblowe1 year, 2 months ago
Justice Arthur Goldberg: apparently a dumb ass. Or maybe a foreign agent. In either case, his remarks are ridiculous. He seems to want to use what we might call, for want of a better term "idiot logic" to excuse eroding our Constitutionally guaranteed rights. I don't see how you can equate preserving our rights with suicide. (that's the "idiot" part of the phrase - you'd have to be one to buy that.) It's just stupid, backwards, and an emotional ploy to get people to agree with his flawed position. It is the Supreme Courts entire freaking JOB to make absolutely SURE that the Constitution is protected. Period. Not protected "kind of" so as to maybe, possibly, some day, catch someone bad.
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RCH11 year, 2 months ago
The issue is not whether the FBI should do paperwork. It's about our Attorney General lying to congress. And the American people. Again.
I'm sure he will have no recollection of the FBI report.
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Lurch1 year, 2 months ago
>Oh please it is the FBI's job to catch the bad guys not do paperwork.
Actually, it is. Any and all law enforcement agencies need to document to prosecute and put away the bad guys.
Also, by documenting we the people can be assured that our govt is for the people and by the people.
Why the radical right wants tyranny over democracy I just cannot fathom.
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santa01 year, 2 months ago
i would argue with the assertion that he lies easily and effortlessly.
He is a squirmy, sweaty, smirky liar. people give him the benefit of the doubt and credit those characteristics to his personality and speaking persona... but they aren't... he always acts that way because he is always lying.
it is amazing that people can listen to these people and not see how clearly they are lying. bush is a TERRIBLE liar... those strange habits of jutting his head forward and dumb expression with wide eyes and dialated pupils are TELL-TALE signs of lying. they are not merely character traits... lying is the character trait and those are merely side effects of being bad at lying.
it is unbelievable to me that anyone can watch these guys give a speech and believe one word of it. if my mother asked me who broke the vase and I raised my eyebrows and crinkled the corner of my mouth the way Al Gonzoles does, I'd have been smacked and punished before i could even lie about it.
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donald511 year, 2 months ago
the Dems you mention have been trying to fight the corruption of this administration... at least since the November election, but its tough when the senate is at 49-49-2, and one of the two is Joe Lieberman, the former dem that got a kiss from Dumya after the state of the union address!
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joeblowe1 year, 2 months ago
Once again: WHY isn't this guy in prison? Preferably in Gitmo? I'm pretty sure THIS guy is more of a threat to us than al-Quida.
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aquaman1c511 year, 2 months ago
To all you who defend anyone in this Admin. If what they always say is true. Then yes they are not liars there just incredibly incompetent! They never read anything that comes across their desk or they have the worst memories in the history of man. If us regular people forgot or not read or passed it on to our assist as much as they do we would all be fired
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bigG1 year, 2 months ago
I can get you a copy but it won't be free - how about 5000 dollars?
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Beau78901 year, 2 months ago
$5000:
This article contains links to PDFs of the reports:
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/005349.ph...
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sumptuousdigs1 year, 2 months ago
It's becoming more and more apparent that Alberto cannot read, excellent choice for a regime that wants no law in their enforcement. (Cheney to Gonzales): "Here Al, let me read that for you..". If the AG isn't that child left behind, then maybe, just maybe, he's a liar.
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walden31 year, 2 months ago
another day and another expose of misfeasance within the bush administration. AG cares nothing about the rule of law, what's best for the country or the constitution. All he cares about is what's best for alberto. and he's the head law enforcement officer in the country? disgusting. the rest of the world is laughing at us. good thing bush returned ethics to the office.
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AmericanIdiot1 year, 2 months ago
Watch them try to blame the FBI for the violations.
Just like they blamed the CIA for "bad intelligence".
Convince an underling to fall on his sword, then give him a medal.
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AmericanIdiot1 year, 2 months ago
Isn't it sick?
People who were raised on the ideals of the Republic, who had no ambition other than public service
what kind of example is this to them?
My brother just got back from the Green Zone (US Embassy).
Now he is in Washington, afraid to take a job, because he is junior and competent, in other words
the perfect fall guy.
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djrevelky1 year, 2 months ago
Ok... so either Gonzales directly lied to Congress or he is just a complete moron who is not doing his job and reading documents in a timely manner.
Impeachment sounds like a viable option.
Can we impeach Ms. Pelosi for violating the Logan Act too? No? Oh..ok, we are only allowed to go after Republican hypocrites, law breakers, and liars...I see.
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willottica1 year, 2 months ago
I would say that would be an excellent idea. Impeach Pelosi (since with her around "impeachment is off the table") then Gonzales, Cheney, and Bush.
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liberaltruth1 year, 2 months ago
Great thread of comments. When will the neocons realize that they have given too much power to the wrong people. I thought they wanted less govenment interference not more.
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NoWayMan1 year, 2 months ago
every time this administration conducted a warrantless wiretap or search, that wiretap or search was supposed to be certified in writing by the attorney general.
if it wasn't certifed in writing by the attorney general, then that wiretap or search was a violation of the law. period.
gonzales is a criminal.
but then what else did you expect from enron's former lead counsel?
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Charlson1 year, 2 months ago
Gonzales, a man who would rather lie than tell the truth like all good yes men.
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willottica1 year, 2 months ago
Unfortunately, noone would know about it, so we'd all still be clamoring for his head. Once he's declared an enemy combatant, we ship him off to prison and he's never heard from again.
I wonder how far Milk sales would slip when they put his face on the carton...
... but for the rest of the world, it's win-win. Only the dairy industry will suffer.
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GHOSTWHOWALKS1 year, 2 months ago
Told and promptly ignored. Sounds like a normal occurance judging by what else has been going on within this idiot administration.
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