Generation Chickenhawk: the Unauthorized College Republican Convention Tour »
Posted by: justgotmarried 1 year, 1 month ago246 Comments Report this Story
On July 13, 2007, I visited Section 60 of Arlington National Cemetery, where the bodies of American soldiers killed in Iraq were freshly interred. Afterwards, I headed across the street to the Sheraton National Hotel, owned by right-wing Korean cult leader Sun Myung-Moon, to meet some of the war's most fervent supporters at the College Republican N
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david_nwpa1 year, 1 month ago
Right, I could not stomach more than 5 minutes of this schlock. Thanks for an eye-opening view. Our colleges and universities are cranking out automatons as fast as they can. Where does one enroll for neo-con U?
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lvrofwolves1 year, 1 month ago
That was pretty disturbing, almost like the grooming of the Jesus Camp kids.
I loved when they were each asked why they weren't over there fighting. Pathetic excuses comparred to their passion of thinking this war is right.
A frightening new up and coming crop of future politicians perhaps. another reason we should get Bush and Cheney OUT and hold them responsible, we need to show these young people what is acceptable for America, and what isn't. How will we do that if things continue on the same path as it is now?
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JackofallChems1 year, 1 month ago
You're confused because someone's lying - and it isn't a college republican. The mere suggestion that someone would come out of college without a heavy dose of left-wing gibberish spilling out of his or her mouth is enough to send most of the freaks on Netscape.com into a frenzy of denial and hyperbole. It's kind of comical, actually.
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ETproductions1 year, 1 month ago
With a son about to complete ROTC, this DISGUSTS me. ChickenHawk Dick Cheney got 5 deferments in the Vietnam war he soooooo supported. Bush got his dad to get him into the Texas Air National Guard (back then--when we had a draft, that was draft dodging. The National Guard NEVER got called up). And even then, he didn't bother to show up for duty.
Not much has changed in the ChickenHawk roost, has it.
http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html
Obviously, to the Republican core national service (outside that which brings you into contact with money-spewing lobbyist) is for little people. Bring back the national lottery draft or a national service requirement for able bodied Americans. Make it clear to all these ChickenHawks that if they lust for war, they themselves may end up fighting it.
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ETproductions1 year, 1 month ago
Amen brother, and thanks for your service. We are now experiencing national disasters where there is no National Guard to call up because Bush has used them as a back-door draft in his war of choice invading Iraq.
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lum-chate1 year, 1 month ago
Don't say the National Guard was never called up during the Viet Nam era. I was called to active duty for 3 days during the Newark Riots 1967, slept for 2 days on the sidewalks of Springfield Ave. Thats what the NG should be doing stemming local problems
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nonparted1 year, 1 month ago
hamy you mentioned draft dodgers and military no shows.
hate to say it but republicans are not the only ones.
bill clinton was a draft dodger/no show which is a felony.
he was the only president charged with this felony.
thank jimmy carter for his pardon
my point is. politicians look out for one another regardless of what they did. both parties are guiltyof this.
if anyone runs this country into the ground it will be both parties. thats why both parties makes it very difficult on minority parties for major positions.
so you people out there need to take off your blindersand expand.
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david_nwpa1 year, 1 month ago
Clinton was at Oxford on a legal college deferment of service. These little pukes in this video had the nerve to talk about why they could not serve as if it were ok for the hired help to fight the battles, but it would ruin their tanning time, tee off time, or time on the tennis courts.
Give me a break, asthma is one thing, but undisclosed medical reasons as an excuse? If they are not willing to go over themselves, they should not be supporting dumya and his war.
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disraeli1 year, 1 month ago
Is this what the English language has come to under the current regime? Wounded in battle now means cut&run. What a stunningly stupid argument you make.
Did you consider the possibility that Murtha's actual experience, as opposed to the Bush/Cheney/Young Republican's wet dream Captain America fantasies, might make him a little more prudent when the useless expenditure of American lives is the issue at stake?
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jimdoze1 year, 1 month ago
Yes. Did consider. And, yes, he's clearly prudent... like Neville Chamberlain was. Which was prudent in the short run, but enormously imprudent in the long run. Luckily Murtha does not have the influence that Chamberlain did.
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MonkeyBiz1 year, 1 month ago
What an idiotic comparison. Chamberlain was never a Marine, was never in combat and really has nothing in common with Murtha.
As much as the neocon supporters would like to believe otherwise, the current Junta in the white house has no combat experience and no concept of what war actually is. When their turn came to fight for our country, they had "other priorities" or used family connections to get into the NG.
When I was in the military we had officers and NCOs that had what we called the "John Wayne" syndrome. They lost it pretty quick after experiencing combat up close and personal. They became more like Murtha and less like you chicken hawks that are "strong" and "tough" and ready to defend this country at all costs, blah blah blah, etc. etc.
It would be damned funny except that people are dying for their hubris, incompetence and ignorance.
Shame on you for supporting them.
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bigG1 year, 1 month ago
So you are heading down to the recruiting office to sign up today?
No?
What a surprise.
At least the two you mentioned served this country in the armed forces.
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natashas1 year, 1 month ago
As much as I would like to see those kids in Iraq, I still would not support the draft. That meeting was absurd. The conversation about abortion, immigration, and why they would not stand and fight in the war they so strongly support.
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david_nwpa1 year, 1 month ago
Why not approach all the members of Congress and ask how many of them have children or grandchildren serving? Wait, Michael Moore did that in Fahrenheit 9/11!
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aerosalt1 year, 1 month ago
I don't get it. It's like me walking around with a camcorder asking people if they are for or against the genocide in Darfur, and if they say against, then I ask them why they don't go over and do something about it. Frankly, the comment of the war being fought by underprivileged people is offensive. The majority of people in this war are middle class citizens....and many have their bacehelors and masters degrees (at least in my branch). Furthermore, I would not expect a person in college(of either party affiliation) to drop everything and join the army. Even I waited until I graduated before enlisting...that's just common sense.
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old-squid1 year, 1 month ago
It's obvious you don't get it - or are purposely twisting logic.
Those Young Republicans are advocating we fight in Iraq - then declining to gear up and join the fray. They expect other young people to do the dirty work that they espouse.
Perhaps they feel too entitled.
And the majority ins this war are solidly working (lower-middle) class.
And you can't even spell "Bachelor's Degree"
Why wouldn't you expect a person working on a degree to suspend their eduction and go to war?? Do you imagine the enemy is going to sit on their hands and wait??
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mesodude1 year, 1 month ago
"Furthermore, I would not expect a person in college(of either party affiliation) to drop everything and join the army."
I guess what I don't understand is how someone can suggest on the one hand that Iraq is the WWII of the 21st Century and then claim on the other hand that it's not so important that it's worth dropping "everything" to join the army. Either "fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here" is just a slogan or it's something you actually believe. Which is it? Are you saying saving your country from al quaeda isn't worth deferring a college degree or are you saying that only CERTAIN people should be obliged to make such a sacrifice?
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Beeboppin711 year, 1 month ago
I'm completely convinced that Republican Party is made up of people incapable of critical thinking, scared sh1tless sheep. They will blindly follow the propaganda wherever it leads them without question. These are people that are seriously flawed. They are the rejects of the rational world.
Tom Delay: "I contend [abortion] affects you in immigration. If we had those 40 bil-million children that were killed over the last 30 years, we wouldn't need the illegal immigrants to fill the jobs that they are doing today. Think about it."
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joeeddie1 year, 1 month ago
And I'm completely convinced that far worse automatons are created by liberal professors at state funded schools. These professors are beyond flawed. They are part of a system that uses every advantage they can to create as many like-minded liberals by encouraging group think in the classrooms. It is even happening in grade schools where most "mock elections" are simply exercises in how to vote for a Democrat.
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jordan111 year, 1 month ago
I'm completely convinced that Republican Party is made up of people incapable of critical thinking>>>>
They're a culture of overbearing self importance, who assume they are 'superior' to others. This view into their 'younguns' arrogance, shows that they see those 'beneath' them as necessary to do the dirty work while they flit around feeling oh so special. We are becoming a society of 'class' structure, and if we don't knock them off their pedestals, they WILL be using the rest of society to protect their 'interests.'
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ciera-marie1 year, 1 month ago
Max's bumper sticker on his car summed it up best for me "Draft College Republicans."
They support it they should fight in it. Better yet, they support it their children, grandchildren, nieces and nephews if they support it should fight in it too. It they don't support the war, then don't fight.
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ciera-marie1 year, 1 month ago
WiredWeb:
To whom is your comment addressed to?
If it's me you obviously missed the young adults at the college give stupid excuses for not joining the military.
Why aren't you there?
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