Sex Ed for Kindergarteners 'Right Thing to Do,' Says Obama »
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ABC News' Teddy Davis and Lindsey Ellerson Report: Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., told Planned Parenthood Tuesday that sex education for kindergarteners, as long as it is "age-appropriate," is "the right thing to do."
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willcoop1 year, 1 month ago
thank goodness someone is at least standing up for this issue. most candidates would run and hide from it or just say its wrong despite it being the 'right thing to do'
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questionseverything1 year, 1 month ago
the story is about obama trying to get his fams pic off the web site......but way to lie neo con
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KingOfTruth1 year, 1 month ago
willcoop says: someone is at least standing up for this issue
Yeah...Obama Hussein Pedophile....
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uscons1 year, 1 month ago
This is a subject that is far too important to be taught in public schools. Teachers always bring their own bias into the presentation of classroom material regardless of what the curriculum handbook says.
This is a job for parents.
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david_nwpa1 year, 1 month ago
Right, and when your kid goes out and gets "knocked up" will you blame your kid or the school at which such things should be taught?
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whatever20001 year, 1 month ago
You're right, they can't. They can be taught how to behave towards their classmates in a sexually appropriate manner. i.e. What is inappropriate touching. How to recognize when they are being touched inappropritely. What constitutes the "private parts" that they shouldn't allow others to touch, except maybe mom and dad and pediatricians. This certainly is the job of parents, but a little re- enforcement at school wouldn't hurt anybody.
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HannibalBarca1 year, 1 month ago
How in the name of anything is this related to teaching. You just like to rant
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mcarpentry1 year, 1 month ago
david, It's called Parenting, Teach your children to have respect for the opposite sex, teach young ladies and men that waiting until your wedding night is not wrong, teach that waiting shows respect for each other. Society has gone to far to make it OK to treat each other as sexual objects.
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GODIMMAD1 year, 1 month ago
I dont agree with this one but I do think that 5th or 6th grade should have sex ed. That would be dealing with the problem and expecting parents to do their jobs. Many parents arent doing their jobs to teach more than the school so the school has to. I agree that parents should be held accountable but if they arent, and they arent, the only way to get the horrible side effects is through the school. I hope my wife doesnt read this, she's a teacher. It doesnt help to not talk about a problem. At least the teen preg and sex rates are going down right now. That just doesnt seem to be enough. I know the agenda problem is there but at least they know not to try to hook up with some 50 yr old man and they know how a condom should be used! Everyone needs to open the eyes and see a real problem. Kids are more sexually mature earlier than thought and they are doing it well before their time. So teach earlier. Not at age 5 and 6!
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HannibalBarca1 year, 1 month ago
Has Obama lost his mind?......Or have people lost there minds? Maybe it is where you grow up but every spring the fields around home are filled with calves, lambs, colts, piglets or any other animal that is in the farmyard and almost all children have witnessed a birth of some sort. Kids being kids will have questions and if in the future you want your children to talk to you you better start by not lying or evading their questions, they are not stupid.
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GODIMMAD1 year, 1 month ago
What if the parents wont answer their questions. If they believe extreme left or right..."it should be talked about, into how gays do it" or "how they should even be talking about this because it too immoral!" This is just how they think...many do think this way on both sides. The only ones that will talk about sex in this manner are the midstream. Midstream doesnt seem to ever make any laws. Has anyone ever noticed that?
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Silverghost1 year, 1 month ago
Luv: Yes, the parents should answer their questions truthfully on their level. I'm reminded of when a 5yr old asked her Mom where she came from & her Mom went into detail explaining. The puzzled daughter said, "No, Mom, I mean what city did I come from!" LOL
Seriously, some parents don't take responsibility, but I don't support the state indoctrinating our kindergärtners on sex. And although some avenues of child protection go overboard on "witch hunts," there are parents & adults who molest children. There needs to be an avenue to rescue a child from harm, without an agenda by the state to control our homes or children. -Rev. S
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HannibalBarca1 year, 1 month ago
In an age where kids are having kids and many are single moms the rules are changing, and not for the better. School is not where these topics should be learnt but unfortunately this is the case, many don't know anything about sex or values. Kindergarten is not an age to start either but there had better be some idea in place in the school on how to deal with little Johnny asking what begat means or Sue asking why Johnnie has a thing and I don't other than go ask your mother, half the time this just freaks a kid out
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badnootka1 year, 1 month ago
5 year olds are not having kids or sex. Kids already deal with enough crap that they don't need confusing mixed signals from untrained teachers telling them about something they have no idea about nor do they have an interest in sex. Don't turn our kids into adults too quickly. And I know kids do get raped and molested. It is not the fault of the kids and their lack of knowledge on the issue. It is the perdofile that our courts feel has rights extending way beyond those of the victim. Molesters, rapists etc. of children are aberrations of the human being. They should be dealt with as we would a rabid dog. Do not transfer responsiblity to my kids. Make the perps pay (with their lives) IF the state doesn't wish to handle it, simply put them into the general population of the prison. WHy should they recieve special treatment? Was what they did t o be there so special?
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queenb7271 year, 1 month ago
The problem is, a lot of parents are not taching this stuff at home because they find it embarassing. Obama is not advocating lessons in condoms. He's advocating not lying to your five or six year old about where babies come from because it embarasses you. He's advocating teaching where not to let someone touch you. Things that ever kid should know but doesn't due to immature parents. Believe it or not, some people simply refuse to teach kids these things.
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tdash1 year, 1 month ago
If kids can be expelled or suspended for sexual harassment before puberty (and they have), it's not to early to at least let them know what's appropriate and what isn't.
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Ebonvoice1 year, 1 month ago
According to RAINN, 15% of all sexual assaults occur to victims who are 12 years old and under.
Further, 72% of all sexual assaults are brought on by friend, lover or relative. Hello?
I agree that parents should be primarily responsible for a child's sex education, but schools should be allowed the opportunity to reinforce what children already know, or at least give them the knowledge they need to help protect themselves from assault.
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elzorro21621 year, 1 month ago
I've taught in the urban environment and trust me some of these kindergarten kids can say things that would blush a sailor! In that urban context, either they learn about the topic by responsible adults in an age appropiate technique or they'll learn by what they hear from adults and see in their TV sets without any regard for their psychological development. A child is never to young to be instructed by parents or moral institutions such as the church.
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queenb7271 year, 1 month ago
Places where it is inappropriate to touch, babies don't come from storks, don't let little scottie look under your dress. OK, the last one was a joke but you get my drift.
I'm not talking condoms and birth control pills or anything. A few of my peers still thought babies came from storks or just "from the hospital" when I was around 8 or 9. That's just to darn old.
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ind061 year, 1 month ago
Content control should DEFINITELY be handled by parents, the state does not need to get into the entertainment business. Lees government and less intrusive government!
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badnootka1 year, 1 month ago
Where are these responsible and qualified adults that are going to teach my kids about sex? Are therse the same vaunted teachers currently teaching them? If so then I want none of them teaching my kids anything like this. The goavernment will simply let any "teacher" take these innocent minds and screw with them. Specialized training is required. Most of the teachers (not all) I've come accross are in my mind unqualified to teach my kids amth or english. They are useless and should never be in a position of trust with kids. Why does the government want my kids to learn about sex long before they have any interest in it. And what business is it of the government's anyway? Stay out of my private life.
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david_nwpa1 year, 1 month ago
I think the topic can be written for children in such a way that it is age appropriate. I do not recommend having kindergarten classes teaching anatomy to five year olds. I would suggest that they be given simple lessons, such as mommy and daddy made the baby. Of course, the troublesome concept of "with God's help" would likely be raised.
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badnootka1 year, 1 month ago
And so it is the perview of the government to teach them if I will not? I think not. The government should stay out of our private lives. IF I want my kid to learn about sex at the age of 5, I will take care of it. If I do not want my kid to learn about sex at the age of 5 then what the f*ck is the government fdoing telling me i have no choice in the matter. Stay out of my private life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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slate1 year, 1 month ago
why not start in the womb? Make the moms put headphones on their tummies and pipe in the sex classes? When is too young too young? I guess since it's for their own good we should make them watch war films to in Pre-K yeah Mom and dad may have to deal with night terrors but it's for the kinds own good right?
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smithichie1 year, 1 month ago
The key phrase is "age-appropriate" which also happens to be very subjective.
No doubt some assume the worst like live demonstrations or something without realizing sex education begins the moment a child realizes there are differences between male and female. Hopefully a child comes to that realization before kindergarten.
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slate1 year, 1 month ago
But there is a difference between the differences of the sexes and Sex education,,,, one is the act and the other physical differences in body types. How can you know how to have age appropriate chats with children that have no clue about the sexual act or why would you want to put those sorts of thoughts in a mind that doesn't have the capacity to grasp it nor should be forced to give up their childhood any earlier than they already do in this day and age?
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smithichie1 year, 1 month ago
Learning that there's a difference at all is the very first lesson of sex education.
Age appropriate is subjective as I said, I wouldn't consider sexual acts being discussed as age appropriate for kindergartners. But there is of course more to sex ed than sex acts.
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EsaEngr1 year, 1 month ago
This has to be one of the most perfect examples of the differences between the 2 parties! As a father, I cannot find an example of how the school system can better teach my children about sex at 5 years old, than I can do at home. I do agree that those kids that grow up "on the farm" will be exposed to nature in a much different manner than a child from the city would be. BUT, Obama is running for President of the United States! If this is an example of where "Progessive thinking" is going to lead to... NO Thank-you Sir!
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EsaEngr1 year, 1 month ago
Smithiechie..
Kids at 5 years old know that SHE is a Girl, and SHE is my friend, While I am a boy and I am her friend. We wear different clothes but I like her... she is fun and nice. Sure, they may (or soon will) play Doctor... "I'll show you mine if you show me yours".
There is a natural progression to kids learning about the differences between the sexes, and how quickly they learn that definatly is influenced by their home life, but the Gov't (especially the (potential next) President of the United States) has absolutly no business influencing this topic at all, unless their position is to defer that teaching to the childs parent.
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smithichie1 year, 1 month ago
Hopefully a 5 year old knows there's a difference between the sexes but not always and not all children are taught the difference between appropriate and unappropriate touching. How can this be taught with no mention of 'special parts' or at the very least 'special general areas?
I agree there is a natural progression when it comes to sex ed. I don't see anyone saying 5 year olds should be taught the same as the 15 year olds.
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MntnWllm1 year, 1 month ago
the funniest cartoon I've seen was a Peanuts strip, where there was a new family moving in next door to Charlie Brown. His friend asked if they were boys or girls, and Charlie Brown replied "I don't know, they weren't wearing any clothes." Perfectly innocent kidthink.
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djrevelky1 year, 1 month ago
I guess its just too easy to neg me than to actually address "Barrack the Magic Negro"'s comments huh?
(The LA Times calls him that, not me)
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badnootka1 year, 1 month ago
I agree, and Obama would not lift a finger to help the people of Darfur. Srebrenicia , Kosovo, all the ethnic cleansing, all with Obam's blessing. ANd the future genocides. I guess we will just sit back in our littel cocoon with Obama and feel that we are so rightious as we are not interfereing in anyones life now. The world can once again feel safe from the big bad US. ANd those litte despots who create perpetrate genocide can continue knowing that there is no one that would be willijng to stop them. Nice leadership>
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aniokly1 year, 1 month ago
Barak Hussein Obamas bill to teach 5 years olds about sex was defeated. It became common knowledge that he sponcered the bill only after his election.What possible reason could you offer to explain the need for sex education for 5 year olds? And why, even if it was reasonable, would you trust that teaching to come from a stranger? It is just nuts. Can you imagine what he has in mind for your children if he were President? He is only owning up to this, because he knows it will come out in the General election campaign. Illinois cannot be trusted to teach students to read, and write, but parents are supposed to trust them with sex ed for 5 year olds. Think about this when you got into that voting booth next Feburary.
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smithichie1 year, 1 month ago
First off, it wasn't Obama's bill, yes he did vote for it, no he didn't sponsor it.
What possible reason is there for sex ed for 5 year olds?
How about teaching a child the difference between appropriate and unappropriate touching for a reason?
The bill, which did not pass, left open the option for parents to excuse their children if they didn't trust their kid's teacher.
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badnootka1 year, 1 month ago
Kids do not need sex education at the age of five to protect them from unwanted touching and molestation. They need to be taught about predators and to be street smart and to identify and protect themselves from the predators. That has nothing to do with sex. It has everything to do with penalties for those convicted of child rape, molestation and the like. If we want to protect opur children stop protecting the perverts.
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Silverghost1 year, 1 month ago
Smithchie: OK, but it's Obama's position. Our Governor has supported dangerous legislation that was not common knowledge, before he was elected. The people, however, are not always attune to the current efforts of their elected officials, which puts us at risk of passage of such. Th people of Illinois should be commended. -Rev. S
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queenb7271 year, 1 month ago
I love it when neocons go out of their way to mention that Obama's middle name is Hussein as if that links him to Sadaam. Next thing you'll be telling me, everyone name charles or Ted should be linked to the serial killers. Luckilly, most people are more mature than you, and don't concentrate on people's names.
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NeoCon1 year, 1 month ago
Welcome to the liberal agenda! This is utterly ridicules, sex should not be even considered or discussed in elementary school. Children at that age are to young to understand and should not be made too. Children should be children, let them play and enjoy being kids. The left should stop trying to steal their innocents and stop with this drive to make our kids in to young adults.
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