The Consequences of Staying in Iraq »
Posted by: populist 1 year, 1 month ago223 Comments Report this Story
Much is said daily about the consequences of getting out of Iraq. But there is little media attention about the consequences of staying. The media is filled with what will happen if we leave - chaos, civil war, terrorists will come over here, and on and on. But if we stay, I think we're very likely to suffer a continuation of much the same.
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Teech1 year, 1 month ago
But, if we stay over there and waste a few thousand more American lives, Bush and his cronies can make a few more billion dollars and the dow may hit 15000! And all that good stuff will trickle down to us! And then Bush can give even more tax cuts to the oil companies and war profiteers and that will stimulate the economy even more! Don't mess with the Great Decider......he's on a roll!
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shyanbelle1 year, 1 month ago
Good Article? LMAO!
Please tell me what is good about it. Who ever wrote it obviously has absolutely NO understanding of history, politics, military, or Iraq. Yet they wrote a article about "consequences".
Have you heard of Vietnam? This article talks about the consequences of staying being people dying. Or disablities. Same crap you people crying war is bad did before Vietnam, we left, 3.5MILLION DIED! Why not talk about that possibility?
"Our current accrued National debt is about $50 Trillion"
ROFLMFAO! When was it EVER $50 trillion?
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
Which proves that the people who write this crap REALLY KNOW NOTHING!
You guys always crack me up. Netscape should always move articles from this site to the "Humor" section. Thats all they are good for, a laugh to US citizens. and another lost dollar for the Iranian people, since Populist America openly takes Iranian donations. We all know it. Can't keep it a secret forever.
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DanmLiberals1 year, 1 month ago
Jeez I feel like Im going back in time. We are fighting a war that is the same as Vietnam, with a President that is a Nazi, and a society that is fascist government with that of Hitler. What's next Libs? What other event in history can you take out of context and equate it to our modern day? This should be fun to hear.
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 1 month ago
Now it's 3.5 million eh?
Keep reading those hero comic books that teaches you how we can beat everyone into submission..
They're not your husband or kids ARE they??
Before you go: PLEASE DEFINE "VICTORY"..
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augustine9741 year, 1 month ago
You show your lack of comprehension of anything when you show your ignorance of the national debt. I will give you a hint: The true national debt includes "future obligations"...it helps if one can read.
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Obaku1 year, 1 month ago
The $8.8 trillion is just by government accounting standards, where non-marketable treasuries in the SS trust fund are treated as if they were real money, and where future liabilities don't exist (Corporations still haven't got the same deal for themselves, they need real assets to cover future pension and medical costs)
Now who KNOWS NOTHING, Junior?
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scott42611 year, 1 month ago
Thanks, pop! I been saying much of this for quite a while...to anyone who would listen. More and more are finally waking up to these realities with each passing day. We need to get out NOW!
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texangelwings1 year, 1 month ago
Thanks pop, great find, as always!
The more people are aware of the true costs of this war, in lives and money, the sooner this war will end!
A civil war is not our fight! And evidently not all the participants in this war are not fully aligned nor in joint agreement to get serious about finding solutions to ending this civil war themselves, for if they were truely serious, the Iraqi parliment would not be taking a month long vacation, while our troops are fighting and putting their lives on the line!
How can we, by example and by training, be teaching the Iraqi people how to secure their borders, when our borders are like a strainer?
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KingOfTruth1 year, 1 month ago
And evidently not all the participants in this war are not fully aligned nor in joint agreement to get serious about finding solutions to ending this civil war themselves, for if they were truely serious, the Iraqi parliment would not be taking a month long vacation, while our troops are fighting and putting their lives on the line!
That was a big mistake and should be something we can use to hammer them to take over sooner....
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kobzikov1 year, 1 month ago
Well, the article just goes to show that it's not all grim news from Iraq. While there are obviously a lot of negatives, whose gonna say that $21 trillion of Iraqi oil will not do wonders for the next 25-35 years for American economy? And by American economy I mean the stupendous profits that Exxon, Conoco-Phillips, Shell, and other oil multinational companies stand to make from Iraqi oil. Whose gonna say that's not worth 3,500 - 10,000 or more American lives, more than million Iraqi lives and trillions of US tax dollars?
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david_nwpa1 year, 1 month ago
This is an excellent, though infuriating post. Why must this war linger at a cost our great-great grandchildren will not be able to repay? I am tired of the rhetoric about how the administration wants us to wait until September before hearing a report from a General about how the surge is going. How is the surge going for the families left behind here? How is the surge going for their children and their parents? What about the non-tangible costs the article did not consider?
We have paid enough blood and tears for oil. Impeach Bush and Cheney, then arrest the both of them. They should be held for war crimes.
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gamahuche1 year, 1 month ago
I see you're "staying the course" of righteous resistance, populist!
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bonedaddy1 year, 1 month ago
GWW,
Essentially you are right. But there is another way that might minimize the anticipated carnage.
We need to force the Iraqis to understand that if they can't cobble together a working government and provide peace and security for all their people then a solution will be found for them.
First, create a larger wedge between the Syrians and the Iranians by allowing the Syrians to take control of the four districts in the Ninawa Province west of the city of Mosul in exchange for muzzling Hezbollah. That should get the attention of the Iranians and bring them to the table.
Allow the Saudis to roll into al-Anbar as a "peacekeeping" force aligned with other moderate Sunni-Arab states such as Moracco, Algeria, Jordan, and Egypt and continue to allow them to advance and flank Baghdad to the west and north in the Sunni-dominated provinces of Salahad Din and Diyala WHILE WE MAKE A GRACEFUL EXIT INTO THE NEWLY FREED AND INDEPENDENT KURDISTAN.
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bonedaddy1 year, 1 month ago
At this point Baghdad would be ready to blow like Mt. Vesuvius. This might be a job for the United Nations once we are willing to show the world that we are part of the solution and not the problem.
Turkey could then enter into negotiations with Kurdistan on an equal footing.
The Sunnis would be protected by their Arab brothers and there would be no need to share any oil. The Saudis can share and fight and die for their people instead of us.
There is great risk in trying to remake the world at large but I think we agree that "staying the course" is a suicidal recipe of annihilation for the Iraqi people and our weary troops.
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SeanIM1 year, 1 month ago
"The media is filled with what will happen if we leave..."
What we need to get the media filled with is some funding to grow a significant voice WITHIN the communities over there.
We need to start taking actions of friends to the region and make sure we have a loud convincing voice to remind them.
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Reignman1 year, 1 month ago
You goto be kidding me.. The media is so biased and against this war its pathetic!!! Once again none of you have learned anything since 911, and the sad part is you wont learn anything til its your butts getting blown up!!! I feel sorry for you all and will pray on your behalfs, because you apparently have no grasp or clue as to the world we really live in today!!!! Very scary....
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