Politics – We don't need to dig deep into American political history to see why the 2008 presidential field is anything but set at the present moment.
There is a GREAT deal of dissatisfaction with the status quo out there, and that translates into a distrust of all the establishment choices, the front runners.
After much disgust and researching the "alternative" American political parties out there, I have recently changed my party affiliation to one more in line with what I believe a government should/could be. Corporate America and the economy has too much of an influence on the front runners.
I'm leaning toward Barak Obama because he's refused to take money from the Political Action Committees and big corporate donors.
I'd go third party too, but realistically, given the current design of the Electoral College system and state-by-state restrictions on getting a name on the ballot, that's pretty much throwing your vote away. If enough progressives do that, the rabid right will rule wrongly for 8 more years.
We have seen both sides of the parties take and do the opposite of what they say. We have seen both sides of the parties fight off the logical things that they should have fought for. We The average Worker are treated as just a vote and nothing more. Still we will vote. We have also seen that twisted twice noticed. We The People had better see different this time.
Of course the field isn't set. It's the first time in a long time that a VP isn't running.
We'll see what Fred Thompson does when he gets going.
Giuliani and Hillary are two sides of the same coin-- not really caring about America but for their own thirst for power.
As for Obama, I dunno. He did miss the John Doe anonymous vote in the senate that would have protected us from being sued if we reported imams acting suspiciously on an aircraft. He was handing out condoms to five year olds. Real presidential material there.
He missed the John Doe anonymous vote that would have protected the racist who got all the brown-skinned people kicked off the plane from getting sued? (Yes, that protection would also have been granted by the act -- maybe he felt that he had a conflict of interest being a brown-skinned person himself.)
And I don't think he was handing out condoms to 5 year olds... he just wanted to. And it wasn't his idea either, he just supported it when someone else brought it up. No wait - the idea wasn't to give condoms to five-year-olds, it was to protect them from child molesters... oh well, it all equates to the same thing.
(Isn't it interesting how you can tell an irrational argument by the way it's twisted and exaggerated into what WOULD be a rational argument before being used?)
Come to think of it there have been dammed few VP to run for the office of the President in recent times following the end of two-term President's run. In fact since Eisenhower only Nixon, Humphrey, GHW Bush, and Al Gore have tried to follow their President into that office.
Nice bit of information there Locky about Obama, the only problem is that isn't what he said or even remotely close!
What he did say was that it was important for children of a young age be taught what was and what wasn't appropriate touching by an adult or even another child!
The more I hear Obama, I'm convinced he lacks the depth to do the job.
...and Bush has depth?
He's not running.
It's not about brown skin.
I was just pointing out that 'depth' is obviously not a qualification for presidency given the Administration of the last 7 years.
Obama may not have the political connections - but that may be a good thing; too many decisions are driven by politics rather than reason.
"It's not about brown skin" - I assume this is in reference to the John Doe comment above. And you are correct, but unfortunately, it could be abused by those who are xenophobic, and that is why lawsuits should be possible - there should be some consequence for abusers of the system.
My Grandaughter volunteered to work in her community for Barak Hussein Obama until they were caught taking Corporate donations. They tried to explain how it is important that he win if he is to do his good works, and sometimes that means taking corporate money. Then they made a big deal about giving some back, only they kept more. She quit.
aniokly that should go to the press. That is what is wrong with our government now. Did you know that on national TV earlier this year that Obama is a gambler. He plays cards. The Cat got out the bag on TV.
I am sure it will come out as Barak Hussein Obama gets close to Hillary in the polls. She will never concede her place in the sun. There is nothing she won't do to secure that nomination. Nothing. I would bet she knows more about what is happening in Obams headquarters then he does. Besides in the last two debates he has made a couple serious Foreign policy flubs. He isn't really going anywhere.
No one seems to be discussing the fact that the Democrats and the Republicans have no one person who is electable, presidential material. The only positive note in this election cycle comes from the fact that for the first time a woman and a black actually have a chance of being elected president. Sadly whether or not they are qualified to be president will have no bearing on the outcome.
One negative aspect in this upcoming election is that (so far) there is no Candidate that possesses the leadership qualities needed in the White House to deal with Iraq & other issues in foreign policies/politics, domestic problems.
One positive aspect is just about anyone has potential to do a better job then Bush has done in these past yrs.
That gives me a sense of hope, eager anticipation, & a feeling of great relief.
Provided that we as a Nation make it that far!
We will pull through because we shall and we must.
Hopefully three (better yet two but that would be overly optimistic) years from now the almighty dollar will be at an all time high again & put the Euro to shame. We will be investing in our own stock market again which will see a real boom (not an artificial one like we have now due to the low value of the $ and excessive foreign investments). By that time, all Bin Ladin talk will cease & be history.
Our troops will be protecting the borders here & Homeland Security will have developed more sophisticated methods to protect people here.
Three years from now we will have a 4th of July where we will celebrate the full recovery of this great Nation.
The world will respect us once again. Our medicare system will be the best in the world. And the French will swallow their own words with a glass of California White Zinfandel.
One of the reasons the field is incomplete is because for the first time in 83 years there is no imcumbent running. So many sandidates are available. Another reason is no one wants to listen to politicians for 22 months. We are tired of the ones that started campaigning in January, and we want new ones.
Don't forget LBJ in 1968. He could have run as an incumbent but chose not to seek the party nomination. He blamed the Viet Nam war, but I think his decision really was driven by the popularity of Robert Kennedy. And if Kennedy had not been assainated in CA, I think he could have won the general election against Nixon.
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"In August 2003, a CBS News poll found that 32% of registered Democrats didn't know which of the announced candidates they preferred and 15% said "other." With nearly half of the Democratic electorate undecided and unhappy with the choices."
Wow-very interesting!!
I don't believe that one half of democrats are 'unhappy with the choices.' I do believe that many are undecided. I've been voting for 43 years, & have picked the democratic choice all but one time. Without a doubt, I'm going to say that the problem lies in the good choices democrats have that fuels their indecision. IMO, it's a three way race, and the pick will be close. (Dennis Kuchinich (sp) is also a good choice, but I think Clinton, Obama, and Edwards have the edge). And I think so far, that the one candidate who can take on the CONS with ease, is Hillary Clinton.
What good choices?
no, in 2003, half of democrats were unhappy... if you read to the end of the article, it says that 73% of Democrats ARE happy.
Call me undecided and not happy. Where are the Teddy Roosevelt's, the JFK's, the Lincolns, the strong leader? Nowhere in sight.
I have to agree with you there GWW - There is no one in either field that exhibits anything close to leadership and the only one I have seen expressing anything like vision is John Edwards and realistically I don't believe he has much of a chance.
I dunno.. Would JFK, Teddy, and Abe have been the same people we know them to be if they'd had to deal with the same media circus that's constantly running around these candidates? I love them, too, but people look different and act different when they're constantly under the microscope and having to pay out the nose to keep their name in bold print on the front page...
A good statement but those people mentioned also had something today's candidates lack, charisma, humour, strength and many other attributes not noticeable today
I'm just hoping against hope that if one of them were elected they wouldn't try to hose us all out of our civil liberties and reinforce the picture of the ugly american I'm afraid the rest of the world sees us as.
Maybe but they all had something the current crop is in sore need of. HONESTY, CHARISMA, etc. I am not a believer in the old myth of heredity verse environment, so it would stand to reason that if they were alive today the things that made them great would still manifest itself.