The Presidential Candidates on Climate Change »
Posted By capn_caveman 1 year, 1 month ago in NewsHere's where they stand; here's how they voted.
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ecotourusa1 year, 1 month ago
thanks for the heads up Neophile...and the submission, capn_caveman!
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ETproductions1 year, 1 month ago
They're quoting a different consensus. It's the sensus[sic] taken by Cons.
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canadianrancher571 year, 1 month ago
I am a little upset by the idea that some of the Republicans showed about climate change, I think both Hillary and Barrack are taking what appears to be a soft and quiet stance on this, their comments appear to be common political comments. MOst of the candidates seem to be informed but Thompson's comments are really scary. He's the kind of person that doesn't worry about the flood until the water is over the top of his boots, to little to late. The people who are not the leaders in the campaigns, I think gave some of the best comments.
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capn_caveman1 year, 1 month ago
I like what you said about Thompson's quote in this article. First of all, he hasn't stated a position on what he would do to combat global warming. That's a cop out at this point to me. But what is truly disturbing is the quote that he gives on the issue. It's one thing to debate the finer points of man and our impact on the environment, but it's another to really believe our viewpoint on the subject should be influenced by observing changes in other bodies in the solar system. Mars is Mars, Jupiter is Jupiter, Pluto is Pluto, and the Earth is nothing like any other of them.
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Natureboy1 year, 1 month ago
They live in a world where big oil and the auto industry will throw tons of money at you if you deny global warming and let them continue building poorly constructed gas-guzzlers.
Ron Paul could be on this bandwagon, but he wants to end corporate welfare as well.
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Goppy1 year, 1 month ago
You libs got our Conservative take on golbal warmin all rong.
We Conservatives can work only so many angles to our ideeologies at one time. Now, our ideeologie of helpin rich poeple gather additional wealth is job 1. The largest rescource of that wealth is the upper middle class and to a lesser extent, the middle class.
Our Conservatives is far to busy reducin the footprint of the middle class to be worryin bout reducin the carbon footprint.
Besides, we aint got no investments in the carbon reduction game. See, we aint never on the leadin edge of anything. We is always waitin on the sidelines to see how stuff falls out.
When we decide to embrace the golbal warmin game, you ken bet well pay our reps to position us for a kill.
But right now, our Conservative fiends, liek Thompson and Tancredo is too busy focusin on showin the wealthy sponsors that they are still squeezin cash from the middle class.
And as a Christian Conservative, this reflects my religious beliefs as well.
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Neophile1 year, 1 month ago
Yes, we can do much better than that. Cuba was able to do it in just a couple years. Of course, they had their oil imports taken away from them against their will. Hmmm... might be something to that. ;)
... and this was meant as a reply to jordan11
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ecotourusa1 year, 1 month ago
Daylight-
check out the movie: the 11th Hour.
it's a way for companies to work with nature to cure our problems. i watched it in NYC. when i returned home, i started investing in some alternative energy companies:
XSNX (this stock's really cheap)
GAAEX
FPL
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gamahuche1 year, 1 month ago
Almost all the democrats have a clue, at least..
The Republicans almost none - and they seem to realise that their constituency also hears the beat of a different drummer - syncopation hasn't arrived yet..
I need to print this out at work to differentiate between the dems. On the face of it Hillary seems to have the best voting record - but of course she's had more opportunity to vote than most [all?] the others.
Thanks for the heads-up neo!
Without a doubt its the story of the day.
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gamahuche1 year, 1 month ago
A week in bed sounds like a perfect idea [preferably sans Yoko].
Are you suggesting a Propeller slumber party?! If so - real or virtual?!
Anyway I staggered out to print this up and study it. Only the dems..
For the Reps my best suggestion is a write-in for Goppy.
I gave points according to SOME kind of logic which is too arcane and complicated to explain and which I'd rather not have to justify, and tried to apply it as consistently as possible.
Drilling in Alaska was a definite minus however. Creative ideas were regarded favourably but nothing was heralded as a panacea .
Not rocket-science and includes some right-brain meanderings but I did attempt to eliminate prejudices and disregarded the electability factor.
This produced the following:
1. Dodd - 16pts
2. Clinton - 13
3. Kucinich 12
4. Richardson 11
5. = Edwards, Obama, Biden
8. Gravel -1
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Natureboy1 year, 1 month ago
Most of the Dem candidates have a clue that they should gesture towards the global warming issue in order to ingratiate their base of support.
What most are proposing, however, is crap. "Market-based" solutions are self-refferent humor when it is the market that is largely the problem.
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Charlson1 year, 1 month ago
Fred Thompson, Tom Trancredo, Duncan Hunter and Ron Paul are all nut jobs when it comes to global warming. And a couple of Republicans says global warming is a problem but the juries out on whether it's human's fault. And some think that to cut our dependence on oil, we ought to drill in Alaska. The Republicans who have a firm grasp of reality and understand science and global warming are the one's I least agree with on other issues.
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Natureboy1 year, 1 month ago
"Fred Thompson, Tom Trancredo, Duncan Hunter and Ron Paul are all nut jobs when it comes to global warming."
No need for a qualifier.
Of course, for the first three, it is a differential diagnosis of dementia vs absolutely unprincipled pandering to the oil interests.
Paul? He's just a flat-earther.
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texangelwings1 year, 1 month ago
This is a good way to evaluate each candidate on the issues, hopefully their will be more articles like this one!
I was rather disappointed with some of their answers.
Thanks Neo for the headsup on this great article!
Thank you capt_caveman, this is a really great find.
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cantfoolme1 year, 1 month ago
Hunter, Paul, Romney, Tancredo, Thompson all make the classic misconconception by saying because we do not have absolute proof of manmade warming then there must be no problem at all. A very dangerous attitude but when you are only interested in short term gains and your own personal situation why should you worry about what we are handing down to later generations? After all they can sort it all out can't they?
Although not the most ignorant, Romney's comment about us not bothering unless the Indians and Chinese take action is staggering. The latter are developing countries and the only way we can put pressure on them is to shame them by us setting a good example. Someone has to bite the bullet and we have the power to do so.
We also have to guard against election rhetoric designed just to get the popular vote only to totally ignore this long term problem when in power.
Good article Neo.
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