The Secret History of the Impending War with Iran That the White House Doesn't Want You to Know »
Posted By snuffysmith 1 year ago in Newsby John H. Richardson (Esquire) Friday, October 19, 2007 In the years after 9/11, Flynt Leverett and Hillary Mann worked at the highest levels of the Bush administration as Middle East policy experts for the National Security Council. Mann conducted secret negotiations with Iran. Leverett traveled with Colin Powell and advised Condoleezza Rice.
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joeblowe1 year ago
Where are the Netscape anchors when you need them? This piece in Esquire is a VERY important item that really ought to be at the top of the page - not only on Propeller but the Netscape home page as well. Here we see a report of DIRECT evidence of ... incompetence at BEST, treason at worst ... reported in the first person from people who were in a position to witness it in person. It is simply amazing that there are people in OUR White House that are working so hard AGAINST our long term best interests. Read this article, then ask yourself again: WHY hasn't an impeachment been started? The next question you might ask yourself: WHO, exactly, voted for these knuckleheads? (other than the Supreme Court, of course...)
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joeblowe1 year ago
I agree - which is why I took the unprecedented step of "sharing" the story. I don't have too many on my list - not a big priority for me - but if you all agree this is pretty important, maybe forward it on to some others. MAYBE - eventually, it'll bubble up to the top? I think this might be the first time I have seen a story like this giving out some truth about the goings on in D.C. that came from the people actually involved. I don't think even Colin Powell's latest revelations rise to this scary level.
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cowboygrandpa1 year ago
ectourusa: No I want the crustaceans in office to leave the country. Go back under the rock or slime coated hole they crawled out of.
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Amazing11 year ago
I agree that this article should be at the top of the page. And the goons of the MSM should be reporting on this instead of Paris Hilton, Senator Craig or any of the other crapola they inundate us with. Where is the responsibility in journalism?
For that matter, where is there any responsibility in the government. Both parties are complicit in this nonsense. We need an impeachment and we need it NOW!
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Amazing11 year ago
Or worse yet, has our educational system been so dumbed down that no recent students have a clue about the big subject area of critical thinking? Is there no solution for the mentality of the crowd follower? Is our populace so afraid to say that the Emperor has no clothes that no one will ever say it? Are there so few of us who actually read and think? How do we get through to the rest of the citizenry that is currently enthralled with the "bread and circuses" of what passes for news?
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Obaku1 year ago
Just a hint for you - don't get amazing1 started on 'the chicken and the egg' - you will never, ever hear the end of it!
LOL
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Searchbeam1 year ago
I second it!
Impeachment Now, Vigilance Forever!
OTAYAD! (One Term And You Are Done!) The Mantra for '08.
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gamahuche1 year ago
FTA
But the engagement strategy was never serious and was designed to fail, they say. Over the last year, Rice has begun saying she would talk to "anybody, anywhere, anytime," but not to the Iranians unless they stopped enriching uranium first. That's not a serious approach to diplomacy, Mann says. Diplomacy is about talking to your enemies. That's how wars are averted. You work up to the big things.
"As disastrous as Iraq has been," says Mann, "an attack on Iran could engulf America in a war with the entire Muslim world."
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GHOSTWHOWALKS1 year ago
Which is exactly what Le Shrub wants. Then he'll sign the martial law order and we'll be in deep s. h. it. With the entire Moslem world against us it will be hell on earth.
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gamahuche1 year ago
This should be an extraordinary story but unfortunately its all too believable. What IS extraordinary is the Bush administrations efforts and ability to undermine the very people who would have the most positive effects on thye situation - in this case Colin Powell [yet again], Condoleeza Rice and the principles of this story.
Its like a replay of the Great Game with different protagonists and a scene-change.
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icono11 year ago
It would be a shame to let diplomats and diplomacy get in the way of a good war.
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jovial1 year ago
He'll be labeled a Kook, or a disgruntled employee. The courts will side against him just as they did in the Plame case.
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tchef1 year ago
Very important story, Thanks for sharing. I think that I will use the share button for once.
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DarkWizard1 year ago
How many times does the truth of matter have to be published before even the naysayers start to wonder if there is something to these stories? How many ex-military officers, ex-government consultants, ex-executive staff have to state the agenda of this out-of-control administration before the media, the public, and Congress take them serious?
I feel like Neo in the Matrix. I've taken the pill and see reality, but everyone else (except my aware friends here) is sucked in by the illusions created by the military corporate government media complex. Yeah, I added some names to the list because they are all working together to keep Americans dummied-down and pacified.
I've been saying for 6 months that this administration will attack Iran before they leave office. This article confirms that very intention.
Yet, we are either conspiracists, lunatics, or listening to disgruntled employees and lunatics. Yes, until reality says different. Then it will be too late. Too late.
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cowboygrandpa1 year ago
DarkWizard: First of all thanks for the heads up. Very important story. I agree with you. It seems to me the Bushies have their heads wedged so tightly in an orifice of their bodies. It is cutting off the blood supply to the brain. Yet we continue to discuss things and nothing happens. We need for the da*n congress and senate to get off of their as*ses and Impeach these dangerous bast*rds. Iran, Iraq, whose next? I don't even count Afghanistan that was their dog and pony show to get the whole thing started. I'm sure someone is getting their fair share of the poppies grown there. You know like the golden triangle of Vietnam. I hope these idiots are taken out of office immediately.
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texangelwings1 year ago
I wish that I could say that this surprises me, it only confirms what I have suspected, for some time!
This definitely needs attention brought to this important subject!
Thanks DR for the headsup on this article.
Thanks snuffysmith, sorry to have missed this article before now!
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icono11 year ago
We have an undermanned, underfunded and poorly equipped military except in the hi-tech area and our meglomaniac govt wants to do what!!!!!!
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MonkeyBiz1 year ago
The PNAC neocons in our government ought to be arrested and tried for treason and crimes against humanity.
I thought attacking Iraq was about as stupid as anything they could possibly do. I was wrong. Attacking Iran would be even stupider.
If we attack, we can count on an uprising of the Shiites in Iraq, fully and openly supported by the Iranians, that will cause huge casualties to our ground troops there.
We can count on losing at least one aircraft carrier and possibly more in the Persian Gulf.
China gets a lot of oil from Iran and might be tempted to help them out. They might see it as a good time to take Taiwan.
Russia has a long history of good relations with Iran and also will not be pleased.
The entire Muslim world will be convinced that Bush wasn't mis-speaking when he talked about a "crusade." Instead of fighting Islamic extremists, we will be at war with the entire worldwide Islamic population.
There is no upside to attacking Iran.
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cowboygrandpa1 year ago
MonkeyBiz: Copy that. There was no good reason to attack Iraq. Bush has no good reasons. For Bush does not know how to reason. He should be declared legally insane and removed from office and Cheney right along with him. I'm sure there are legal terms for this to happen. Can't people see he is insane? I would call him a chimp but it would insult the mentality of chimps everywhere. Hopefully the United States military would refuse the order to attack. An insane CinC is reason enough to refuse an order. Hopefully they would request a mental and physical examination of Bush before proceeding.
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MonkeyBiz1 year ago
I agree. The UCMJ has a specific section (I don't remember where) that calls for a legal mutiny if a questionable order is given from someone who appears deranged or insane. Ordering an attack on Iran would fit both of those criteria.
The problem is there still are enough kool-aid guzzlers that think what he is doing is hunky dorry and in the best interests of the USA.
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spkguy1 year ago
Thanks for the heads up DR, and thanks again to snuffysmith for posting it!
Most of us have been saying that the intentions of this administration have been less than honest with the American people regarding Iraq. Most of us here have also felt that we are not getting the truth about their intentions when it comes to Iran. All I can say now is I see a severe absence of arguments to counter this article, why is that?
Wheres are the loyal Bushies now?
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Shadowolf1 year ago
One big question: How many of us can they fool this time???
How many of us can be scared into line, knowing what we do now??? We know who the LeShrubbites out here are...can we get them to LISTEN,or are they gonna just attack the messenger???
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nyogtha1 year ago
sorry, this was supposed to be above. Propeller messing with the threading again.
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Will13131 year ago
wouldn't it be wonderful.. if someone had the documentation to prove them LIARS after they attack..
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Spadecaller1 year ago
The flat earthers will remain the same ad infinitum. Their government is not capable of indiscretion and error; it never will be.
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Searchbeam1 year ago
cat,
You are entitled to your thoughts, but this time, at least consider the consequences of an attack on Iran.
We just cannot afford to be the Sheriff of the Middle East.
We have zero credibility in the world, undermanned army and absolutely politicized Generals in command.
This will be the end of reason and end of our world as we know it.
There is one culprit in this impending disaster, and that is Shotgun Dickie!
He just cannot get through his head that he doesn't have a clue on the geopolitics of the region and his brain ceased to function when he started pushing for the Iraq war.
The only way to deal with him and his team of terrorists is to impeach him!
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StarLord1 year ago
Australia would flat-out refuse to help America in attacking Iran - our PM would face riots in the streets if he agreed to help. If the ALP wins Government this election (24/11/07), then the ANZUS treaty may well be a casualty of an attack on Iran.
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Searchbeam1 year ago
DR, Thanks for heads up on this story!
This is one bombshell that ought to explode in the face of the cowards of New American Century.
There guys need to be tried for treason!
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Dicax_Maximus1 year ago
While I don't dispute the article, can no one envisage the probable outcome of a nuclear armed Iran ? Should this scenario come about, the entire "west" would be under threat (as for Israel, they would be in a KYAG situation)....
Or did you REALLY want oil to hit over 100 USD / barrel ??
How about 150 ???
How about more ???
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Obaku1 year ago
I'll bet that a "nuclear armed Iran" is a LOT LESS DANGEROUS than a nuclear armed Soviet Union was, or China is.
Ya' think?
Which is worse, Tel Aviv or Taipei being nuked?
Which presents more danger to Israel, a couple of warheads in Iran, or the entire Muslim world going to war against them, and the U.S.? Are you willing to risk THAT result, just to be sure that Iran can't have even 1/10th the nuclear capability that Pakistan has today?
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Searchbeam1 year ago
Probably the best thing to do is to FREEZE SHOTGUN DICKIE'S ASSETS AND LOCK UP HIS OIL AND HALIBURTON STOCK AT THE TRADING PRICE JUST BEFORE HE WAS ELECTED!
Once you get that incentive off, he cannot benefit from any political shenanigans he may pull off!
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wasntme1 year ago
Some pointers to this informative article.
The Iranian they were talking with before the 9/11, the
