Fox News: Al Qaeda is causing the CA wildires »
Posted by: TechnologyExpert 10 months, 1 week ago300 Comments Report this Story
This morning on Fox News, hosts of the show Fox and Friends blamed the wildfires in California on a new culprit: al Qaeda. They pointed to a 2003 FBI memo, which raised the possibility that al Qaeda may try to set wildfires around the western United States. They also noted that men in a 'hovering helicopter' saw 'a guy starting one of these fires.'
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Beeboppin7110 months, 1 week ago
Of course! This was my first thought. Do you suppose that garbage bags and duct tape will be of any use in this situation? Perhaps we should toss that advice into the fire along with the FOX News Network. What a bunch of bumbling fear mongering idiots!!!!
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GWHayduke10 months, 1 week ago
The agenda of the current administration relies on developing a deep seeded fear within the populace.
We are supposed to believe that these AQ yokels in Afghanistan & Pakistan are more sophisticated than the former Soviet Union.
That the current threat is more serious than the cold war, when hundreds of ICBMs were pointed at us....that a "mushroom cloud over NYC" is eminent if the enemy is "emboldened".
When we have a disaster in this country, tough luck American Citizens, your resources have priority in Iraq, protecting oilfields....under the guise of foiling AQ in Iraq.
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libsRfunny10 months, 1 week ago
Yes, there are a lot of bumbling idiots, like the goof who wrote the misleading headline to this story. No where does it say al-Qaeda is responsible for the wildfires. In fact, it is an FBI memo mentioning the possibility of al-Qaeda MAYBE plotting such events.
It's so funny to see you silly liberals falling all over each other in such a tizzy.Did you do that when Dan Rather blundered or when "deathray" recently posted that nearly year old HOAX about the NRA?
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memestryker10 months, 1 week ago
I think Fox may surf Snopes for its news. In this case, there was an interview with a detainee in 2003 who said they were planning to set fires in the western U.S. That's the only potential evidence I've actually seen.
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lovemylibs10 months, 1 week ago
Those darn Republicans are trying to divert our attention from the real culprit in the fires. Or should I say culprits. Boxer says it's Bush's fault, Reid says it's climate change. I trust them.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007...
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mesodude10 months, 1 week ago
LOL. Actually, I think most Republicans are probably just relieved Bush didn't further humiliate them with another one of his idiotic stunts-- like maybe having his pilot make a sidetrip to New Orleans to pick up some gumbo before heading to the disaster in CA (since he thought it was a good idea to fly to CA to do a fundraiser while Americans were drowning in New Orleans).
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injest10 months, 1 week ago
Fox News: Al Qaeda is causing the CA wildfires.
"This morning on Fox News, hosts of the show Fox and Friends blamed the wildfires in California on a new culprit: al Qaeda".
They didn't BLAME anyone. Do you know how to read?
"FBI sent out to local law-enforcement said that an al Qaeda detainee had given them some information that the next wave of terrorism could be in the form of setting wild fires."
"They pointed to a 2003 FBI memo, which raised the possibility that al Qaeda may try to set wildfires around the western United States".
The 2003 memo that has been out since 2003 is known about by the locals. The 2003 Cedar fire in Oct 2003 was the first time we heard about it, and that's why people on his block were asking him about it (the memo).
Question, did you know about this Memo before today? Were you here in San Diego during the Cedar?
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ybdogsct10 months, 1 week ago
INJEST:
"They didn't BLAME anyone. Do you know how to read? The 2003 memo that has been out since 2003 is known about by the locals."
You claim that the Fox News story was about the 2003 FBI memo, not about accusing Al Qaeda of causing the wildfires. But, the chronology doesn't fit your argument. In fact, it appears Fox News anchors were blaming Al Qaeda before they ever discovered this 2003 FBI memo.
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Fox_advances_theo...
"'I've heard some people talk about this a little bit to me, but have you heard anybody suggest that this could be some form of terrorism,' Fox & Friends co-host Steve Doocy asked...LATER Wednesday, Fox anchors returned to fanning the terror fears, digging up a four-year-old FBI memo and presenting it as new information relating to an al Qaeda link to the fires."
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ybdogsct10 months, 1 week ago
Fox News wasn't simply covering a 4-year old FBI memo, as you claim. Instead, the chronology of events suggests that Fox News FIRST broached the idea of wildfire terrorism, and only afterwards attempted to find evidence for it in the form of the 4-year old FBI memo, which they mistakenly considered to be "breaking news."
"Such small discrepancies in dates and details proved to be no obstacles for Fox anchors, who reported that the memo was from 'late June of this year' and 'is just popping up this morning.' The memo was first reported by the Arizona Republic in July 2003, although a Fox anchor said it was reported 'five days ago.' A 2003, AP story, still available online via USA Today, reported, 'The contents of the June 25 memo from the FBI's Denver office were reported Friday by The Arizona Republic.' On Fox, that information became, 'The June 25 memo from the FBI's Denver offices was reported three days ago, excuse me five days ago, by the Arizona Republic.'"
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injest10 months, 1 week ago
This is the story about the police helicopter they were referring too.
About three hours later in Hesperia, a man was seen by a female motorist squatting along the side of Highway 173 just south of Arrowhead Lake Road. Sheriff's officials say John Alfred Rund, 48, of Hesperia had just started a fire along the flat, isolated, scrubby road.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-arson25...
The woman called police, and Highway Patrol and sheriff's deputies were soon looking for the suspect, who witnesses said took off on a Honda motorcycle, wearing a red-and-white-striped helmet.
Four residents grabbed shovels and put out the fire with clods of dirt, said sheriff's spokesperson Jodi Miller.
A CHP helicopter, using infrared equipment, caught sight of Rund on his motorcycle, Miller said. Along with CHP officers, sheriff's deputies found and arrested him at a home along Highway 173 near Highway 138, she said.
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jaern10 months, 1 week ago
Honestly! TE when I read the headliner for this story post I kept looking for the HUMOR category. Then I realized it is closing in on the 2008 Presidential election time and why wouldn't the Bush Fear-Factor team start up these shenanigans all over again.
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insideoutgraphics10 months, 1 week ago
When I saw the Fox Headlines this morning as I went on line, I thought too, that it was a joke. Then I read further and realized it was not a joke but was an actual FOX News Item.
FOX is not a News Program but rather a medium for instilling fear, myths and hate. I can't say that I'm shocked by what FOX puts out,but there are those that may actually tune into FOX to get their daily dose of a skewed reality. And that is so unfortunate.
...and to think I thought it was a CIA Special Ops program that started the fires. Sounds rediculous right? As rediculous as Fox News headlines.
AQ's defense.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rq3PVHVn0kE
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TechnologyExpert10 months, 1 week ago
BTW, look at the transcript. They mention a June FBI memo, but don't mention it was in 2003.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-07...
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libsRfunny10 months, 1 week ago
"They drag out a 4 year old memo to instill 'fear.'"
You have Fox News confused with Deathray and his year-old hoax story about the NRA. A 2003 FBI memo about potential eco-terrorism is a valid threat.
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aceofspades110 months, 1 week ago
Wow AlQaeda controls the Santa Ana winds now! - we should enlist them to stop global warming
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GrainOfSand10 months, 1 week ago
Is that comedy or what? Maybe Faux News is slowly turning into a comedy/parody of the news. Sometimes when I do watch it, I laugh.
I've also noticed that practically all of their female anchors wear skirts that are hiked up to the mid thigh area. Gretchen's (Fox & Friends morning anchor) skirt was hiked up so far she looked like she was trying to do a Sharon Stone imitation from Basic Instinct sitting on that couch with those two other bozos in suits she's sitting with.
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cushi10 months, 1 week ago
Well, apparently CNN is jumping on the bandwagon (guess they don't want to be 1-upped by Faux News). Glenn Beck is supposed to discuss the possible Alqaeda connection tonight!
Here's a theory for ya: Divine retribution, i.e., the Bushies left the poorest of the poor in NO to drown or live homeless, hopeless and at the mercy of the criminal elements. Now, the rich and affluent are findng themselves in pretty much the same boat (we'll see how quickly the govt. responds to them!).
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rightwingliberal10 months, 1 week ago
no but barbara boxer blamed the spread on bush no matter what blae it on a republican
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aniokly10 months, 1 week ago
I said the same thing to my husband when I saw where the fires have been set. You don't have 14 fires set all at the same times without terrorists. They don't even need weapons, they just need Americans to be stupid. We must know where all the terrorists are lurking. Pick them up and send them to Egypt to discuss what they have been doing lately in their spare time.
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smithichie10 months, 1 week ago
Quite often these fires ARE started by arsonists, however, that is no reason to make the jump that these arsonists are members of al-quada without any evidence. Many times arsonists are found to be firemen, strange as it seems, sometimes they are just nuts who like to see their 'work' on TV, either way we haven't had to import arsonists in the past.
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bubba210 months, 1 week ago
S-U-R-E ... PROOF, please ... otherwise, you are as delusional as the FOX News crew. Sure is a good thing you are not a Judge - you would be convicting lots of people based on your personal opinion ...
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ind0610 months, 1 week ago
Why couldn't it be an American arsonist? Why couldn't it be coincidental acts of nature, dry lightning strikes, cigarette butts out car windows, poorly doused campfires igniting a very very dry area that was always prone to wildfires but is even more so this year? Why must it be terrorism? So Cal has gone through this every year for my entire life. This is fire season! I wouldn't trust anything those idiot ex-weathermen on Fox And Friends said if it came in a platinum wrapper.
Maybe if Shep Smith reported it...
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ACTeeple10 months, 1 week ago
Well in the case of at least ONE of these fires (thankfully one that was put out relatively quickly but not before acres burned) some high school kids set it so they could get out of school. Too bad Fox News doesn't cover that story. (I feel that instead of capitalizing the word news I should have put it in quotes.)
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decipher10 months, 1 week ago
"I said the same thing to my husband"
why is that not surprising?
i think it's a pretty safe bet that you don't live in southern california.
opps, posted in the wrong spot again. the reply was mean to be directed at annie's comment.
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DoerNotASayer10 months, 1 week ago
So then I don't ever want to hear another neocon claim that anything Bush does is okay because he "is keeping us safe." Because he is not....the terroists are attacking. Yet ANOTHER Bush failure.
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nahual10 months, 1 week ago
what a joke...do you live in California? if you do then you are well aware of the seasonal forest fires,the Santa Ana wind conditions, the drought factor, the dried up brush and the invasion of the wilderness by affluent housing developments.
Surely AlQaeda must have advance technology that allows them to control the Santa Ana winds and the ongoing Southern Ca drought.
IF AlQaeda set the fires then we can only conclude that Homeland Security failed miserably to protect the citizens of California against terrorist attacks, so much for covert surveillance of emails and telephone calls.
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libsRfunny10 months, 1 week ago
"What a bunch of worthless clowns 'faux' news has on their payroll."
This is too funny! You dumb liberals are so bent on falling all over yourselves in your rabid hatred of Fox News that you just can't understand it never at any point said al-Qaeda was responsible. It referenced a FBI memo in connection with the current fire and that arson is suspected.
To see you goofs falling all over yourselves pretending you somehow are the smart ones is such a riot! YOU are the ones who have it wrong, but you are too blind with your hatred that you just can't see the facts. Ohh you libs are so, so funny
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Donnaich10 months, 1 week ago
So you admit that they referenced the FBI memo?
Now why would they do that if there's no evidence in that regard? Wouldn't want to imply a connection, would we? Just reporting the FACTS not good enough?
You don't have to say something flat out... just "we report, you decide"... If its WRONG, you can always say "we didn't say that." If you IMPLY it while reporting real news, you get people making the connection you want. And we know how well that works (Saddam was involved in 9-11)...
If it's RIGHT, law enforcement will get the EVIDENCE and present it at the appropriate time. Nothing like trying to lead the investigation...
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nahual10 months, 1 week ago
LibsRfunny
You have your head so caught up in the neocon hole that you cannot admit that Fox News IMPLIED a connection.
Why mention an FBI memo regarding terrorists plots involving forest fires at the same time the forest fires in Californai are mentioned?
You accuse the "libs" of rabid hatred of Fox yet you suffer from the opposite but equally damaging attitude; rabid defense of Fox News.
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lfergie81210 months, 1 week ago
The problem is that they don't know the difference between Al Qaeda and El Nino. If it isn't English they don't understand because they even have problems with English.
News Flash!! We now have been attacked by terrorist wild fires inside our borders! That means that Bush has failed to protect us from foreign terrorist.
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Raiderwall10 months, 1 week ago
I guess this is how they do it, put out rumor and inuendo on the airwaves and see how far it goes. The joke is that people buy into this stuff.
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Obaku10 months, 1 week ago
Faux News is just that. The only reason to watch is if you need a good laugh, and don't have cable TV.
Besides, everybody knows the fires were started by an Al Quds infiltration force that came across the Mexican bordeer, via Venezuela and Cuba, with special arms supplied by Kim Jong Il, with documents personally forged by Elliott Spitzer. And they were all wearing "Hillary '08" T-shirts.
TIA
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Obaku10 months, 1 week ago
Someday, you are gonna figure out what I was really saying, if you keep working on it.
You probably need to go back and read it again, word for word, and then review your - sorry - go to the L-i-b-r-a-ry - and look up the various rhetorical devices used in the English language.
I really think you also need to have your drinking water checked - you have all the symptoms of some sort of heavy metal poisoning.
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oldgringo10 months, 1 week ago
If you look at a fire map for the Harris fire it started exactly at the US/Mexican border next to the Mexican town of Tecate. The Santa Anna winds that are fueling the fires have been blowing to the NorthWest, straight toward San Diego. The strange thing is that although these fires run along the border, for the most part they have not entered Mexico or Tecate, a town with a population of approx. 100,000 people. It is odd that these fires began exactly at the border fence.
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lfergie81210 months, 1 week ago
Could it be that a Mexican, after he crossed the border, fell asleep smoking a cigarette?
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afoaf10 months, 1 week ago
fires don't enter Tecate or Mexico because they don't move against the wind, genius....they move west/northwest due to the santa ana conditions.
once the onshore flow picks back, they'll blow back on themselves and burn out for lack of fuel.
this is the same fire cycle we go through almost yearly, it's just being bent to serve the politics of the day.
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oldgringo10 months, 1 week ago
That is exactly the point, OAF. On one side of the border fence are hundreds of Mexican shops and homes, while the other side is brush and woodlands. The border runs unevenly east to west yet the Harris fire runs along and right to the border fence instead of going Northwest from a given point. We in Mexico have been hearing this fire is probably arson for days.
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