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China agreed to stiffer food and drug export controls on Tuesday after a day of trade talks with the United States which were strained by tensions over how to handle consumer alarm about the "made-in-China" tag.

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STONERS9 months ago

"The U.S. media hyped about the quality of Chinese exports, causing serious damage to China's national image."
What ever- the crap they loaded off on us says it all.
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  browntiger8 months, 4 weeks ago
  
  Blah Blah Blah...
  We will do nothing... as Walmart CEO might have to step down to life of semi-luxury. He may not even be able to afford new 500 feet yacht this year, and will have to wait till next year. What kind of freaking nightmare would that be.
  I support RonP in that regards. We should exit WTO and have real trade agreement with all trade partners. Agreement that is good for both US and China.
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jordan119 months ago

- China agreed to stiffer food and drug export controls on Tuesday after a day of trade talks with the United States which were strained by tensions over how to handle consumer alarm about the "made-in-China" tag.>>>>
Gee, I'm sorry to tell China that I can't be "handled." I won't buy their products, period. Granted, it's a pain in the @ss trying to find anything NOT made in China, but I'll survive.
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  dandt16129 months ago
  
  You are right!! It is a pain trying to not buy anything made in China. I had no idea how much stuff comes from China until all the recalls started. I'm hoping the surge of made in the USA products is a trend that stays around.
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    jordan119 months ago
    
    I'm still looking for coffee cups, lol. (plain one's). If you see any, let me know!
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    ADAGUY9 months ago
    
    Would you pay more for an american made product, or would you think, "What difference will this one little purchase make? no one will ever know. After all, I'm just one person!"
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      jordan118 months, 4 weeks ago
      
      Not me. I make up my mind, and that's it. No products made in China. Period.
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  Spinward8 months, 3 weeks ago
  
  I'm not sure it's possible to boycott China. Don't get me wrong, I agree with your sentiment.
  Buy a U.S. made automobile and look at any of the electronics under the dash or under the hood and you'll see "Made in China" everywhere.
  Unavoidable.
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  marshx8 months, 3 weeks ago
  
  you're not being reasonable, US toy makers Mattel admitted to making mistakes in designs, the blame must be shared. its childish to assume that everything made in china is unsafe.
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RedRiverJ9 months ago

Yes the Chinese agreed to stiffer food and drug exportation controls, so we should trust them. I don't think so.
What about computer hacking and stealing secrets concerning our nuclear and missile secrets. I don't trust them at all. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=... What makes me angry is our country has sent all those jobs out of our country when there are plenty of American's that would love to do them.
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  ADAGUY9 months ago
  
  If it really bothers you that much, why do you support the republican party?
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    Spinward9 months ago
    
    Raising the cost of labor in the U.S. drives jobs overseas. Thank the Democrats and labor unions for years of damage on that one.
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      CaptainLucid9 months ago
      
      So true. We should immediately allow our 8 year olds to work 14 hour days for 10 cents an hour so we can stay competitive with china.
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        ADAGUY8 months, 4 weeks ago
        
        Someone sent an email to Lou Dobbs the other day. They owned a factory that made cookie cutters. The owner said their package label says: "Proudly made in the USA for children. NOT BY CHILDREN"
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        Spinward8 months, 4 weeks ago
        
        ...and for $80, you can buy that cookie cutter.
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        Spinward8 months, 4 weeks ago
        
        If your 8 year old wants to work 14 hours for $1.40, you have a special child.
        I can't get mine to work for 14 minutes without two lawyers and a union negotiation team.
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        CaptainLucid8 months, 3 weeks ago
        
        Too bad you are not in china and you could beat him into a coma unless he took a factory job. It is not that the kids want to work 14 hour days. It is that they will get smacked into next week if they don't. They do not want to work 14 hour days anymore than blacks wanted to pick cotton for nothing.
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        Spinward8 months, 3 weeks ago
        
        Captain, I know your heart is in the right place, but the situation in third-world countries is different than here in the U.S.
        I work 8 months of the year in a third-world country and the children (admittedly) that work in factories are helping to support poverty-stricken families AND are learning skills that will support them later and will provide a better life for their children.
        I have seen these children kicked out of production jobs by good-hearted people like you. They are then forced to work as beggars, street criminals, or child prostitutes.
        I know it's a reality that's hard to relate to, but it's tough when you live under a bridge and your parents sort through trash piles looking for recyclables for a living.
        Would you rather see a 10-year-old girl making a soccer ball or working as a prostitute?
        I don't like seeing her in a factory, but better that than a cheap motel.
        Think about it.
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      ADAGUY8 months, 4 weeks ago
      
      Perhaps you should look at the entire picture. Before Reagan crushed the unions, we had no "free trade". Tariffs were in place to prevent unfair importation practices. How do you suppose those tariffs got lifted? The loss of power that the unions suffered at the hands of greedy Yuppies like yourself, is exactly the reason all those jobs went overseas!
      The term "free trade", means YOU pay for it!
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      ADAGUY8 months, 4 weeks ago
      
      People of you stupidity just amaze me. Where would you be without the Unions? Have you ever asked yourself that?
      No paid holidays
      No Paid sick leave
      No 40 hour work week
      No overtime pay
      No benefits
      No unemployment pay
      No severance pay
      No child labor laws
      No work comp laws
      No prevailing wage law
      The list goes on.
      Last of all, until this year, the UAW has not had a strike for the last 10 or 15 years. But did the cost of cars remain the same?
      Why does a Toyota pickup made in a non union American plant cost more than a ford or chevy of the same size, which was made in a union plant?
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        Spinward8 months, 4 weeks ago
        
        The unions have made a positive impact regard labor law.
        They finished.
        Now, they can go.
        The problem is the INCREASING cost of labor in the U.S. You see, labor is a global commodity, like anything else. If we artificially raise it continually, the market for it will go someplace else to buy. It's not too hard to understand.
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        ADAGUY8 months, 4 weeks ago
        
        Then explain to me why as the unions have been silent for the last 15 years, cost of automobiles is still on the rise.
        The board of directors still gets a raise, the ceo still gets a raise. The amount of man hours in manufacturing a car is not 1/10th of what it was 30 years ago, yet when prices go up, you still blame it on labor costs.
        Are you aware that you can't get a job with any of the big three auto makers today without a college diploma? You're wasting your time if you try. Now just how much should someone with a diploma expect? 8 bucks an hour?
        You still haven't responded to my question. Why does it cost more to buy a non union honda or toyota than a union made ford or chevy?
        Think about it!
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        Spinward8 months, 3 weeks ago
        
        Don't misunderstand my point.
        The cost of labor in the U.S. is removing us from the global labor market, that is undeniable. Why is a non-union Honda more than a Chevy? I'm not sure. I do know that many companies pay non-union workers MORE than union scale just to keep unions out.
        Past that, I don't know much about cars EXCEPT that after 150,000 miles, the Honda is still likely to start. The Ford may not.
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        ADAGUY8 months, 4 weeks ago
        
        Labor is not a GLOBAL commodity as long as you have tariffs! Do you really want to compete with nations that practice child labor as well as slave labor? This is what you must do in order to allow labor to be a GLOBAL commodity!
        Tariffs, and deportation of illegal immigrants. is the first thing to address.
        The fact is that you cannot expect cooperate America to make high profits, and still maintain a comfortable standard of living for workers. At the same time, workers can't cut a fat hog and expect cooperate America to make any profit at all! There is, somewhere in between, a suitable compromise for both.
        If you will stop and think about it, the problem with un-affordable health care really got it's start with the downfall of the unions. When union shops decreased in numbers, so did company healthcare plans. It is, in fact a double edged sword!
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        Spinward8 months, 3 weeks ago
        
        Tariffs have nothing to do with GLOBAL commodities except raise the cost to the American consumer, meaning we need to pay him even more to keep up with the tariffs!
        Foreign labor is MUCH less than U.S. labor which is why your local bank, computer company, trucking company, or airline use foreign labor to answer your phone calls.
        We will eventually lose most if not all manufacturing jobs in the U.S. without a complete tax structure and labor pricing over-haul.
        Within 5 years, China will become the largest English-speaking country in the world and the top 25% of their intellectually elite will outnumber our entire population. We will either wake-up and make some SERIOUS changes or we will pass-away as a dominant culture.
        We won't make those changes because most won't understand until it's way to late. We will simply have a bunch of people standing around ENTITLED to $20 per hour who can't find a job. On our current course, we're doomed.
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  Shadowolf9 months ago
  
  ...what gets me, the Chinese, when the scandal started to break started pointing the finger at everyone...now that we know that the ChiCom government had their fingers in it the whole time,they are still saying "There IS no problem; you must trust us!!!"
  ...anybody know what 'trust me' means in LA???
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kriicket9 months ago

"The U.S. media hyped about the quality of Chinese exports, causing serious damage to China's national image," she said through an interpreter.
Gee...let me think for a minute....dangerous levels of lead in toys....chemicals on toys, that when wet turn into the date rape drug, poison in food for both human and animal consumption....and the list goes on. Who are we supposed to blame other than the people who made these products. When we buy their products, (especially when it's shoved in our face from all the superstores) don't they have an obligation to perform the highest quality control for the ones who purchase from them?
As for causing damage to China's national image...I think they pretty much did that to themselves.
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  STONERS9 months ago
  
  Well said everyone--- And the list goes on and on....
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    GHOSTWHOWALKS9 months ago
    
    And it will continue. Walmart is defending the Chinese and refuses to submit to the new regulations. Go figure.
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NelsonR9 months ago

It's the unfairness they exude when you trade with them. The Chinese leadership are as arrogant as Bush and meanwhile they lead our negotiators in these discussions. From their refusal to inflate the value of the Yen, piracy, unfair government subsidies. The Chinese do not act as a member nation but act only selfishly for their own self gratification.
Screw them and the world trade agreement they use to abuse.
Meanwhile the toys and crap we buy are turned into advanced nukes, armnaments and an expanded military for future controntations with America and what few true allies Bush leaves us with.
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  RealityChick9 months ago
  
  Not sure whether you hate the Chinese or the Japanese since the "yen" you refer to is the currency of Japan. You're as arrogant as Bill Clinton and as Ignorant as Jimmy Carter.
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    NelsonR9 months ago
    
    RealityChick who is a Neo Con - I'm sure you received my response but I will publicize it. I attempt to be perfect but I sometimes get engrossed in a topic while my fingers type faster than my brain. I will attempt to be perfect like yourself and be infallible as your President Bush is.
    Why are you Republican Conservative so smart, righteous and self serving with a huge load of egotism thrown in? The condition and state of affairs in America proves otherwise. Most would agree Bush has been an abysmal person in office, so ponder that!!!
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      Spinward8 months, 4 weeks ago
      
      NeoCon: anyone who is not a wonderful Democrat.
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  Spinward9 months ago
  
  I'm not sure how a discussion on Chinese recalls turns into a Bush-bashing session, but I see that almost everything does for Bush-haters, yes?
  If you think Hillary will be tough on China after they have provided so much in campaign contributions, it won't happen.
  As for them confronting us militarily, I wouldn't worry about it that much... why would they attack their best customers?
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    CaptainLucid9 months ago
    
    "I'm not sure how a discussion on Chinese recalls turns into a Bush-bashing session, but I see that almost everything does for Bush-haters, yes?"
    How about W opposing country of orgin on food labels? The chinese put all sorts of crap in food and toothpaste. I would not feed my pet chinese pet food or brush my teeth with chinese toothpaste if I knew. W wants to make sure that I cannot know the diference between honest American goods and Chinese poison. You call it Bush bashing, I call it a reality check.
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      Spinward8 months, 4 weeks ago
      
      So, don't vote for Bush in 2008.
      I'm simply saying that Clinton loves the Chinese more than Bush does and if you think she'll do anything to hurt them, you're nuts.
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nostalgia9 months ago

Apparently some stores aren't even removing the recalled toys from the store shelves!
State Probe Finds Tainted Toys on Store Shelves
he C-P-B, with help from the Departments of Health and Agriculture and
Markets, conducted a sweep of 2,800 stores late this summer and fall looking for recalled toy products.
C-P-B Chair Mindy Bockstein says they found them.
"What we found was about 620 units of toys were still on store shelves. These were toys that were recalled and were unfortunetly still on store shelves," Bockstein told WNED.
Governor Spitzer is calling on the federal Consumer Product Safety Commission to immediately issue a national recall of newly identified products found during the state investigation.
http://publicbroadcasting.net/wned/news.newsmai...
Time for a nationwide boycott of all "Made in China" products
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  CaptainLucid9 months ago
  
  Bitch, get the hell out of this serious discussion and go back to ranting on a street corner.
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    ADAGUY8 months, 4 weeks ago
    
    great advice!
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Aotearoa9 months ago

America has to sleep in the bed they made. Outsourcing and moving operation overseas for cheap labor was a short term quick profit for the big corporations and the communist government. How much do them CEO's make plus bonuses? yes we get poisoned while they feast on milk and honey. Kerry had the right idea when he was going to penalize any American companies operating overseas...betcha them big rich corporations breathed a sigh of relief when their champion was shuffled through the back door into the white house Lol!!!!!...and your government can complain all they like but in reality the chinese are calling all the shots. Where can your bargain seeking shoppers get cheap stuff? A wise man once said " never put all your eggs in one basket" and that is what you have done, rely on cheap chinese stuff, so keep on paying and they'll keep on poisoning you fullas.
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NurseNIndy9 months ago

I think the US should get the message, after China turned our ships away at Thanksgiving.. those jerks are gonna start messing with the US more and more. The US needs to boycott all china made products. The American Public needs to make a stand, if china is in the label, don't buy it. I went shopping today, it was hard. Everything is made in china, even designer brands. I refused to buy Lauren today and I really wanted a couple of things made by Lauren. That china label was there, it stayed on the rack. It is time that WE Americans take the stand. Our gvt won't. so we have to in order to get OUR country and JOBS back.
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  ADAGUY8 months, 4 weeks ago
  
  Good for you. I hope that you are serious and continue your boycott. I have been trying this for the last 18 months. I hope more will join in. Take time to tell the store manager of your opinion. Everyone out there, BOYCOTT CHINA! BOYCOTT INDIA! BOYCOTT PAKISTAN!
  INSIST ON MADE IN USA PRODUCTS!
  It may take a while, but if enough of us take a stand, it will work! STOP FREE TRADE!
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getreal18 months, 4 weeks ago

Well I would like to see our dollar gain some wealth and our Nation some independence from relying on other countries for our needs. I'm not talking about certain politicians that are using this as an issue. Fact of the matter is that they are the reasons we are in this mess and they know it. I really do not look forward into electing any of them back in to the office of any thing. If they care about this Nation so much they need to make restitution with their paychecks, seeing how they have enough lobby money in their hidden bank accounts, I doubt that it would put a dent in their survival like it has the ordinary citizen of America. I felt terrible when my next door neighbor had to put his poisoned dog down because he couldn't afford the veterinary. We have a lot of people that went through that trauma and then the children's cough medicine scare, the lead scares. They really don't want our business and they really do not like us at all.
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flaminizxs3 months, 1 week ago

He may not even be able to afford new 500 feet yacht this year, and will have to wait till next year. What kind of freaking nightmare would that be.The chinese put all sorts of crap in food and toothpaste.
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