"CheneyCare" Campaign Gathers Steam »
Posted by: TechnologyExpert 7 months, 3 weeks agoBanking on the success of their earlier Iowa ads, which declared that Dick Cheney would be dead if he were "anyone else" and didn't have the publicly-funded health care that our politicians get, the California Nurses Association (CNA) / National Nurses Organizing Committee (NNOC) has launched a new national campaign called 'CheneyCare.'
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GrainOfSand7 months, 3 weeks ago
Call it something, but please leave Shotgun Dickie's name out of it. His ego is much bigger than his heart ever was/is.
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ETproductions7 months, 3 weeks ago
The Repuglicans have been shouting the lie that America's health care is the best in the world so long they probably believe themselves by now. Of course, for the wealthy and for those with US Government health care, they DO have fantistic coverage. But we have over 1/3 of our total population either uninsured or under insured.
Truth is we are way down among industrialized nations. There are a few Eastern European nations like Slovenia that are as bad as the US, but all of the big ECC players are at the top of the list. The only thing we lead the world in is costs. We pay double what #1 France pays per capita.
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KISA452a7 months, 3 weeks ago
You have some of this right. Those with current adequate health care probably will not want to go into government run health care. Those without current adequate health care will do better under a new system. Since I have health care, I current can't stand the thought of letting the politicians monkey around with my health care as they will inevitably do. They will micromanage and mismanage and overspend and overextend and punish those they don't like and reward those they like by giving or with-holding health care. I have little doubt it will become another tool of subjugation for the politicians to wield.
But, as I say I already have health-care. When you are sitting there watching your child die, it is "easy" to accept enslavement as the cost of care.
Tough choices.
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ETproductions7 months, 3 weeks ago
Interestingly, almost all the systems that rate in the top ten, like France and Italy, use a single-payer system.
Even those here who currently have health care will loose it if we just stay the course. We have two possible choices.
1 -- Drop the requirement to treat the uninsured in emergency rooms. Just let the poor die. Right now, the insured carry the cost of keeping the uninsured from dying.
2 -- Move to a single payer system where costs are shared by all.
Personally, I'm no more comfortable turning my health care decisions over to those who brought us Enron and Worldcom than I am leaving them up to those who orchestrated the Katrina "recovery."
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jordan117 months, 3 weeks ago
I want a health care pool, across the board. The reason for that is accessibility to the best DR's. If govt. run health care places ceilings on charges, those in that system won't be accepted by the best care providers. Those with private care will get better care, & the most vulnerable population (the elderly) will die prematurely. Then come those with cancer/heart disease/& other illnesses that are redlined by private care insurance.
If you put the vulnerable in one group, it won't work. There has to be a healthy group that offsets the cost of the vulnerable group. So why not put health care in the hands of a non profit? An audited non profit.
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tkyrchncs7 months, 3 weeks ago
Nobody in America should lack health care. There is something seriously wrong with our values when we can borrow trillions for a criminal military venture, and yet allow children to suffer for want of simple dentistry.
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jordan117 months, 3 weeks ago
free everything for everyone! WHOOOO HOOOOO!>>>>
Don't be daft. The money for health care comes from the people themselves. The concept of insuring care is through pooling. On your own, you probably couldn't pay for the care if you got a serious illness. But as part of a pool of money, you can draw from that pool and get the care you need. You car insurance works the same way. You pay into a pool, and if you wreck, draw more money to fix your car than you paid in.
Currently, you pay into a private pool for health care. Their priority is NOT paying for your care, but is making a profit. So you could find yourself denied care, and you could die for their profit. Many already have.
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tkyrchncs7 months, 3 weeks ago
As for me, at age 53 I have paid SIGNIFICANTLY more into every insurance than I've ever drawn out. No major health problems, Haven't been to the doctor for illness in 20 yrs, completely clean driving record since age 16, one crown from the dentist and well patient care, one road response when I ran over an "alligator" and flattened two tires is all the insurance companies have paid on me. If you amortise the insurance I've paid, I could pretty well afford anything. We already have a pool, we all pay taxes. We just need to have the program MEDICALLY run, not by someone with an ax to grind or money to make.
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idyll7 months, 3 weeks ago
Very clever!! Watch out when nurses are on your case. Just ask Arnold.
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lestparker7 months, 3 weeks ago
A simple minded solution to a complex problem. I am no fan of Cheney, but this is just plain foolishness. Who in their right mind wants the government managing their health care? Go to the web site and have a look. If you think this is a good deal then dont come crying when you find out all the things promised are not delivered. There is no way this proposed care system will work out the way it is being proposed.
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tkyrchncs7 months, 3 weeks ago
The problem is only complex because people (like insurance companies and legislators and hospital administrators) have to stick their noses, and paws, in where they don't belong-like between me and my doctors. An entirely medically run program financed at public expense is what we need. I am so totally socialist on the medical issue.
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Spinward7 months, 3 weeks ago
To run the program "Canada Style" would cost about $1,500,000,000,000 per year. That's $1.5 trillion.
Total tax receipts in 2007 were $2.4 trillion.
To fund this program, we would need to increase tax revenues by over 70%. Each man, woman and child in the U.S. would cost close to $5,000 per year under a Candian-style system.
For the average family, the annual tax burden would be $22,000 just for the free health insurance. That's not very free.
There has to be a smarter, private sector solution.
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triizine7 months, 3 weeks ago
I can't afford private insurance, so I don't go to the doctor. I save all of my medical budget, which isn't much, for my kids health care.
Our current system sucks!
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