Chicago voters are told pen had 'invisible ink' »
Posted By tomboy501 8 months, 1 week ago in NewsTwenty voters at a Far North Side precinct who found their ink pens not working were told by election judges not to worry. It's invisible ink, officials said. The scanner will count it. "This one defies logic,'' said Jim Allen, a spokesman for the Chicago Board of Elections.
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not2needy8 months, 1 week ago
Those officials should be locked up, pronto. That's as bad as it gets, and i wonder who put them up to that.
That bunch is so crooked and unethical. If i were repub i would change my status out of shame. They won't though, anything goes as far as most of them are concerned.
The end justifys the means!
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tomboy5018 months, 1 week ago
There's also the 'Nation of Retards' angle.
These people actually believed the officials about the magic pens, voted, turned in their ballots and went home!
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Beau78908 months, 1 week ago
I've gotta tell you...given where the 42nd precinct of the 49th ward (where the "invisible ink" pens were given out) is located, I can't imagine that the election judges there--certainly mostly regular Democratic organization volunteers--would want to disenfranchise the voters in that area.
There is no regular Democratic candidate there against whom those voters would have given many votes. I'd say this is probably a case of sheer laziness on the part of the election workers--they got crummy pens, and couldn't be bothered to go out and get more.
Not that they should be left off the hook for it.
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not2needy8 months, 1 week ago
At least there were a few who went home, called and complained, which probably got all of the ones who were told that another chance to vote.
NOW, the question is, did their second votes count? Whoever it was that gave them the bogus pens were pretty bent on keeping them from voting.
I'm so glad we do paper ballots here, not that they can't be rigged, but there is a paper trail.
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gamahuche8 months, 1 week ago
That was exactly my reaction n2n.
Acccountability is the name of the game and as long as these people think they can fool a few suckers they will continue with these shenanigans.
Name tags on all workers at polls and a hot line on which people can immediately report to an INDEPENDENT election committee.
It would cost - but what price is too high to protect democracy?
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vettenut8 months, 1 week ago
gama:
Please see my post above, responding to Neo's....
I agree with you that INDEPENDENT election committees and staff are needed.
BUT, the question is:
Since we're talking about Chicago right now, will the Democrat Party relinquish its control on Chicago politics, and actually allow that to happen there????????
My strong hunch is that they would NOT!
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PatrioticAmerican8 months, 1 week ago
umm n2n i just read the article and i have a question for you, where does it say that the repubs are the ones that are guilty of this "invisible ink" thing??????? you need to quit just throwing things out there okay. let me guess you blame Bush for Brittanys troubles to right???? Bush gets blamed for everything else lets put that on him too
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saintetienne8 months, 1 week ago
NOT2NEEDY: "That bunch is so crooked and unethical. If i were repub i would change my status out of shame."
WHERE in the story does it mention that any of the people involved were Republican? WHERE?
STOP MAKING SH*T UP AND SPREADING LIES, NEEDY. You're ALWAYS so FULL OF 19 KINDS OF IT, but to arbitrarily make a statement like that is beyond responsibility, even for YOU.
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saintetienne8 months, 1 week ago
CONT.
Given that this is CHICAGO, which has a HISTORY of crooked DEMOCRAT politicians, and a legendary LEGACY of corruption by the DEMOCRATS when it comes to elections, MY first thought was that these were most likely Democrats passing off the "invisible ink". However I, unlike NOT2NEEDY, would not make a statement like s/he did.
The article does not mention ANYTHING about ANY political party.
This is yet a further testament to the B.S. that "Not2Needy" spreads every day on propeller.
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aniokly8 months, 1 week ago
The scanner did not count the ballots, but the professional Chicago poll workers over rode the machine, and counted the ballots the way they wanted them to be. That is how it is done in Chicago.
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TimALoftis8 months, 1 week ago
Unlike what many will try to get you to believe...voter fraud does exist. But its not the 'Voter' who is committing it... its poll workers and the election officials that you have to watch out for.
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canadianrancher578 months, 1 week ago
I feel that putting blame on the voters is a mistake, I don't know about down there but up here voting is still a very serious event, and I believe it is so down there as well. Being one of our most important rights in a democracy most of us expect honesty at the polling station, Maybe if the right to vote was such a joke to these judges they would be willing to lose their right to vote for life. It is stunts like this that make many in the world who cherish the right question your country.
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aniokly8 months, 1 week ago
You don't think the voter was to blame? If some one told you you had in your hand a pen with invisible ink, and to just go ahead and mark your ballot you wouldn't question that? Think about it. If they told me that I would threaten to poke their eye out with my invisible ink pen if they didn't hurry, and get me another pen.
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wtagg8 months, 1 week ago
The American populous has been led to believe many things by officials that turned out to be not true. It has become a conditioned response of our citizenry.
When we enter the polls, we rely on workers (from both parties) to provide us a clear and fair way to cast our ballot. So, should the blame be placed on those that lie or those that believe the lie?
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GHOSTWHOWALKS8 months, 1 week ago
Yes and it didn't enter their minds to actually listen to anything that didn't have to do with their choice. Shame.
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aniokly8 months, 1 week ago
Chicago is a Democrat city, and there are not that many Republican Wards. I lived in the 12th and they had more Republican voters, but not enough to be called a Republican ward. You have to understand these are voters that vote the way their Precinct Captain tells them to vote. They get palm cards, and go like zombies to vote for the machine candidates.
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saintetienne8 months, 1 week ago
It's why I call that party the Dumb-o-crats: Stupid leaders coercing near-retard constituents to vote Democrat and promising them the moon if they do.
If I were stupid, lazy and reliant on the government, and someone told me they were going to take care of me if I voted Democrat, I guess I'd vote Democrat, too.
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canadianrancher578 months, 1 week ago
I would like to adress the issue of invisible ink, In the last 2 months I have signed for my drivers licence and also a loan with a pen that had no ink, it was signed on a computer screen and I questioned whether this was legal and they said they would print me a copy, in todays world of technology it is easy to dupe people with explanations that may seem stupid to some but to others they may expect it to be the truth, have any of you been in a garage nowdays and understood everything you have been told, and these people would never lie to you would they?
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aniokly8 months, 1 week ago
You are handed a ballot. Each name has a little oval beside it. You take a black pen, and fill in the little ovals. Then you feed the ballot into a machine that counts it. Obviously if you have a an "invisible ink" pen you cannot mark the candidates. Those ballots are taken out of the machine after you leave, and the workers mark them any way they want. It is Chicago for God's sake.
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joeblowe8 months, 1 week ago
Although this may have been the FUNNIEST example of election "problems" in Chicago, it isn't the only one. I heard of SEVERAL people who ASKED for a Republican ballot, but were handed a Democratic ballot anyway. "Oops, sorry" was the response. Yeah, sure.
The Democrats have driven this state so close to the edge of disaster (right now, we are set to lose BILLIONS in infrastructure funding from D.C. because - due to fiscal mismanagement - we don't have the required 1/3 matching funds.) that I don't see how we will EVER recover. Hopefully the federal investigation will bear fruit soon and they will haul gubernator B'Vich off to prison. MAYBE that will help.
Oh - if there is anyone out there who may be moving into the Chicago area, DO NOT under any circumstances move INTO Cook County. You have been warned.
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TweekerchickQC8 months, 1 week ago
It just reminds me of some of the things I learned about while studying implied positions of power in college. There are stories of thieves standing outside of drop boxes at banks, claiming they were 'broken' and people actually would hand them the nightly deposit and not second guess it.
I guess its human nature to not question the people "in charge"
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vettenut8 months, 1 week ago
It has been stated by some historians that The Chicago (Democrat) Machine elected JFK in 1960.
Now, that may have actually been a good thing.....
But if the same Machine helped select Barack Hussein Obama in the recent Presidential Primary.....
And if it also helps elect another Clinton (Hillary is ACTUALLY from NW suburban Chicago) to the Oval Orifi--(Oops, I mean "Office"--darned keyboard!), will that be a good thing as well??????
That's a hard question in some ways, if you assume it's going to be Hillary vs. The Maverick in November........
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aniokly8 months, 1 week ago
What happened in 1960 was a very close election. Chicago had paper ballots. JFKs father called the first Mayor Daley and told him how many votes they needed. Daley call the unscrupulous Alderman in the 1st ward, and he found enough boxes of votes to elect JFK. Nixon didn't ask for a recount, and JFK was sworn in Jan 20, 1961.
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vettenut8 months, 1 week ago
Well, Beau, since you asked.....
In Florida in 2000 AND in 2004, Democrats attempted to not allow the counting of thousands of military personnels' (Republican-heavy) absentee ballots.
But this kind of back-and forth fingerpointing contest for historical blame-placing doesn't lead much of anywhere.
Most Democrats are unwilling to acknowledge their party's culpability, even when it's historically documented. And they resort to conspiracy-theories and baseless and unprovable charges such as yours above.
They're NOT baseless and unprovable, you say??
Then call your lawyer and file some lawsuits--you'll get plenty of attention and can write a book about how you single-handedly "righted the ship" called the USA. (Assuming you feel OK using the word "right...")
So let's identify which party RIGHT NOW is objecting to tighter checks and balances on voter fraud by requiring Photo ID's for all voters?
A clue: It starts with a "D."
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tkyrchncs8 months, 1 week ago
I have a phone. If I do not have a pen that writes in two minutes, the police will be on their way here. 1 min 55 sec...... SHEESH!
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slate8 months, 1 week ago
LOL I thought people up north are supposed to be smart.... who would believe the invisible ink line in the first place?
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Mdiar8 months, 1 week ago
Uhhh... I really hate to break it to the Republican bashers on this... and really, I do. But this story was completely nonpartisan and probably a story of lazy poll workers... I doubt that Bush had anything to do with this. I doubt that Obama or Clinton did either lol. Just some lazy poll workers. Unfortunate and its scary to think that it might happen elsewhere, but at the same time... what is wrong with those people? Invisible ink? What? Hey, bring some lemon juice with you, just in case they try to pull that! After you write with the ink, rub the juice on the ink like in National Treasure!
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