Clinton On The Attack »
Posted By not2needy 7 months, 3 weeks ago in News"He promised change as a compassionate conservative," she said referring to Bush, "and the American people got shafted." The line, delivered with a passion not always seen from the New York senator, brought the hundreds at Cincinnati State College to their feet. "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on
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not2needy7 months, 3 weeks ago
FTA:
The Obama campaign responded by sending along a quote from Clinton Communications Director Howard Wolfson: "If you want to talk about tactical political maneuvering, it's about one Democrat comparing another Democrat to George Bush. That's the worst kind of tactical political maneuvering."
After the talk, she continued to take the fight to Obama while talking to reporters, displaying two of Obama's direct mail attack pieces, which she called "blatantly false" and claimed that his rhetoric doesn't match reality.
It's getting down and dirty now.
I hope Obama can hold his own with her, she's a shrewd old bird.
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dandt16127 months, 3 weeks ago
Obama plays the old politics game pretty well himself. In fact, I am pretty sure that the reason he refused to vote "yes" or "no" so many times in his career was probably political posturing. He was looking ahead and knew if he made a real vote on tough issues that they could come back to haunt him during a bid for the presidency.
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dandt16127 months, 3 weeks ago
"Obama's use of the citation in this way does strike us as misleading. The quote marks make it look as if Hillary said 'boon,' not us. It's an example of the kind of slim reeds campaigns use to try to win an office."
Like I said, Obama is pretty good at the old game of politics himself. So much for change.
How about a woman in office. I'm a man and I say the men have had it long enough. Obama is just another man trying to become president with the same mind set and old tactics.
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AnteUp7 months, 3 weeks ago
dandt1612 ~
I may vote for Obama - I haven't made up my mind yet - but
even if I ultimately choose to vote for him, I don't think
it is necessary to be ignorant of his political
strategizing. I believe there have been calculations by
Obama just as much as the other candidates.
When the intelligence bill passed the Senate?(You know,
the granting of immunity to the telecoms) Neither Obama
or Hillary were present to vote against it. I realize they
were out on the campaign trail - but I would have been
more than pleased if they had made an effort to take a
very controversial stand by voting. Show me what kind of
President you would be by first showing me how you perform
your current job.........as a U.S. Senator.
I try not to ask for the impossible - but I was
disappointed. Did they make a political calculation?
Note: Sen.Lindsey Graham also missed the vote.
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not2needy7 months, 3 weeks ago
Yes she is Spade!
Also FTA:
"Let's have a real campaign," she said, her anger palpable. "Enough with the speeches and the big rallies... Shame on you Barack Obama... Meet me in Ohio. Let's have a debate about your tactics and your behavior in this campaign."
At a press conference later in the day, Obama said the mailers are accurate and that he's puzzled why Clinton is raising them now, since they have been around for at least several days.
"It makes me think there is something tactical about her getting so exercised this morning," Obama said in Columbus, Ohio. "Sen Clinton as part of the Clinton administration supported NAFTA. In her book, she called it one of the administration's successes."
She is calling him out on his tactics, and i forsee her being one of the dirtiest candidates ever.
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned i guess!
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AntiNeoCon7 months, 3 weeks ago
If she doesn't do something to demean "wonder boy" she will loose, what choice does she have. The media created a movie star named Obama, and the swooners are lining up to vote for him.
How about voting for issues instead of a popularity contest? I have nothing against Obama, but he is a tad over-rated in my book...I will vote for any democrat this time, McCain would just be more of the same old Reagan-Bush stuff.
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texangelwings7 months, 3 weeks ago
At the Texas Trans Corridor superhighway/NAFTA, I discovered that the beginning of this TTC plan, was started under President Clinton's watch in 1991. Mexico wants the 10k acres in KC, Mo., being used for Mexico's Customs Office, to be turned over to them as Mexican Territory. I am still fuming over the meeting!
NAFTA is only a success for the countries and our big businesses, not for the American People. I really wish that all candidates could answer the question about this Superhighway!
Thanks not2needy!
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HannibalBarca7 months, 3 weeks ago
This has not stopped though, In Aug 2007 Pres. Bush, PM S. Harper and the Pres of Mexico met in Quebec Canada to continue this plan only now it is called SPP.
Seems that instead of being cousins of some sort, we are all to become one big family, same laws, money, education system the works and very little opposition
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Searchbeam7 months, 3 weeks ago
texasangel..,
TTC is the biggest land grab and hotbed of corruption and a give-away to the cartel behind this monster.
Some of the most productive and fertile land in Texas will be FOREVER Buried and become a graveyard under this atrocity that will only benefit Multinational Corporations and Mexican billionaires.
Yeah! That is the gift of Bill Clinton that will keep on giving - to these greedy vultures.
Hillary cannot disclaim her involvement and claim her innocence - she doesn't have any!
We need change badly, and we need it NOW!
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Spadecaller7 months, 3 weeks ago
This was a closed CNN controlled event. CNN's questions came from the Republicans. They would prefer to see Hillary win, because she is less a threat to the established corruption on both sides of the aisle. Besides, Obama has a better shot at beating McCain anyway.
The only reason I watched it was that Wolf Blitzer wasn't hosting it; otherwise I would have had to get the recaps and "highlights."
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Shadowolf7 months, 3 weeks ago
Hillary is proving every day she is just as dirty as LeShrub...
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JoseMadre7 months, 3 weeks ago
I love it! The stuff that these two are saying makes Bush, Sr.'s "Voodoo Economics" seem like a good-natured ribbing.
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Searchbeam7 months, 3 weeks ago
Good story, n2n!
This ally cat can fight and scratch!
Whatever little respect I had for her just evaporated by seeing the way she was spewing venom today and showing her fangs and nails!
Little wonder that half of the country would NEVER vote for her, no matter what!
I can't wait for Tuesday's debate. I know Obama will put her in her place. I am just curious about the way he is going to do it! There will be lot of ammunition, and the powder would be dry.
Let's not forget that Bill Clinton's biggest mistake was the creation of NAFTA which opened the gate for shipping our jobs and our wealth abroad.
She is asking for this, and she will be getting it by the truck load!
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1-2-Oscar7 months, 3 weeks ago
Bill Clinton completed the negotiations and gave NAFTA its final shape. He lobbied Congress very hard for its passage, putting a great deal of pressure on members of his own party who voiced objections. In 1993, when NAFTA was passed, the Democratic Party held solid majorities in both the House and the Senate. Bill Clinton signed the bill at a very elaborate ceremony, and announced how proud he was of HIS accomplishment.
"Implementation of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) began on January 1, 1994. This agreement will remove most barriers to trade and investment among the United States, Canada, and Mexico."
http://www.fas.usda.gov/itp/Policy/NAFTA/nafta.asp
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Searchbeam7 months, 3 weeks ago
Here is some footage of that attack and some interesting comments:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT838xRA12c&NR=1
I am trying to figure out who her "back-up singer (head-shaker) is! He almost shakes his head like a sports-doll!
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aniokly7 months, 3 weeks ago
She should have gone after this person weeks ago. You cannot criticize Barak, because he is black. Or is he white? Whatever. She is not going to get out of the race until she removes his halo.
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Albmore7 months, 3 weeks ago
I agree reforming is another way of saying we support. I dont think Obama was wrong for pointing out these important points. This is not smearing it is telling the facts. She wants mandates on health care he does not. Hillarys health care plan is HER way or NO way. She wants to say she has experience as first lady but only wants to take credit for what ever was success and distance herself from the failures. I hope she is out of our lives soon. TEXAS; OHIO; be national Heros and give the Clintons the final blow that we can be free from them and move on.
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Searchbeam7 months, 3 weeks ago
Between these two families, they have controlled or substantially influenced the governing of the country for more than 28 years.
If you add Jeb Bush's two terms as Governor of Florida and Hillary's 1 1/2 terms as US Senator, that will come to another 12 years.
Let us thank them for their service, out of which 12 years were total disasters and 8 years of rebuilding of our country broken by these 12 years of atrocities.
Let us give them a farewell, put them on a train,
And start putting this Humpty Dumpty back together gain!
Never again should we allow one single family to control the destiny of our nation. Their assumption that they know better than anyone else how to govern, is based on arrogance, elitism and sheer snobbery!
It may be OK in UK,
But not in our country!
Let competence and smarts rule the day!
Peace and Blessings to our USA free of these chains!
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1-2-Oscar7 months, 3 weeks ago
The trashiest comments in this thread come from those who pretend to live on "the high road."
But I'm not surprised. The pretense to virtue has long been obvious.
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Spadecaller7 months, 3 weeks ago
Speaking of trash... hello oscar.
Nice to see you you have brought your usually miserable attitude this Sunday morning. Have a nice day.
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Searchbeam7 months, 3 weeks ago
RR,
In your make-believe world, you can anoint her queen if you wish, but I am seeing the handwriting on the wall, and it does not look good for Hillary!
Come to think of it, McCain also seems headed to the heap of obsolescence because of his sneaky deals with lobbyists!
When one is flying in a private jet of a contributor in the company of an attractive and young lobbyist, the possibilities are endless! Sky is the limit of your imagination!
I think our country deserves better days and our people the promise of prosperity that has been stolen by these shysters and crooks in Washington, DC!
Time to open a new chapter in this sordid tale.
It will be fun to watch rats jumping the sinking ship of Hillary's failing campaign!
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Searchbeam7 months, 3 weeks ago
I have been thinking for a while about Hillary's claim that she has more experience in running this country, and that she will be ready to take charge on day one.
It is a very strange claim. First of all, she was not elected to the office of President or Vice President. So I cannot imagine her sitting in the Oval Office and making critical decisions. I cannot even picture in the Situation Room with the Generals and Admirals , making critical decisions on troop deployment, or diffusing a serious situation somewhere in the world.
As far as I can recollect her informal title as First Lady and another informal title of "Secretary of Nothing".
The only "experience" that seems to come to mind is her lecture in China on Women's Rights and her junket in Africa on Air Force 3 or whatever, with daughter Chelsey.
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Searchbeam7 months, 3 weeks ago
Contd..
If she was doing any official business for our country, it was highly irregular and perhaps illegal, because she had no official authority to do anything in the Executive Branch.
It is like, if Andrea Mitchell claims to have experience in managing the policies of the Federal Reserve, because she is the wife of ex-Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan! Thank God Andrea is a lot smarter than that!
Now, in the Senate, I have not seen any earth-shattering performance by her that would earn accolades, either.
The only thing that she stands out for is for something really terrible - her giving authority to Dumbya to declare war in Iraq. She was a practicing Lawyer, and she ought to know our Constitution - you know, the document that defines our country for what it is, and defines the management of our country by the three branches of the Government.
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Searchbeam7 months, 3 weeks ago
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Our Constitution places that authority to declare a war solely in the hands of Congress and EXPRESSLY PROHIBITS THE TRANSFER OF THAT AUTHORITY TO ANY OTHER BRANCH OF THE GOVERNMENT, including the Executive Branch.
She has two strikes against her. First, illegally approving the transfer of that authority to Dumbya.
Second, equally questionable, is her not owning up to her mistake. Honest people make mistakes, but because they are honest, they own up to them, such as John Edwards did!
Hillary lives in a Fool's Paradise.
This single character flaw has defined her campaign, and now she is reaping just rewards of her obfuscation.
If she thinks American voters are dumb and stupid not to recognize her tricks, she is sadly mistaken!
I think we are blessed with a very intelligent electorate which is waking up to the wounds inflicted by the current administration and now resolved to not let these sneaky and manipulative politicians rob our till and kill at will!
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aniokly7 months, 3 weeks ago
He will meet with Ahmadinejad, and Kim, and Castro, and they can have a talk. Since he is too weak to defend this country he will probably sell it down the river. Some one ask him what happens when they laugh in his face? He is much too naive to be President of the U S,
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AlaKai7 months, 3 weeks ago
When hope is all you have, things are pretty hopeless. Put Obama on the pedestal and watch him fall.
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simonsez7 months, 3 weeks ago
Analysts will be studying this primary for years trying to understand how she blew it so completely.
Maureen Dowd has an excellent editorial today about how Hillory so misjudged the situation, blew the money she had available and allowed a lightweight to overwhelm her effort.
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simonsez7 months, 3 weeks ago
I agree with AlaKai ... If Obama wins the election, he will receive a full frontal collision of the realities of the world against his agenda of hope and change.
This country is a mighty big ship that doesn't change course easily. He will find that the bureaucracies are so ingrained, they create major barriers to change, Congress ha
