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Posted by: DiffeeOnline 5 months agoHillary Clinton is calling on President Bush to boycott this summer's Olympics opening ceremonies to protest China's abysmal human rights record, according to her campaign.
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aniokly5 months ago
This poor lady who is struggling with a failing Presidential campaign has time to advise the real President of the U S not to attend the opening ceremony of the Olympic's. Hil, concentrate on you own proplems, and George will concentrat on his.
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skeek5 months ago
America's own human rights record is laughable but hypocrisy is entirely and predictably expected from the USA. Just as it presumes to be the heroic champion of human rights and thus positioned, at least in its own collective nationalistic imagination, to tell the rest of us, we the knuckle-dragging heathens of primtive instincts, just how we can live peacefully if only we did what we were told, either that or face the consequence of whatever options of military menace are on the table.
All of this is done, not for any higher noble purpose for the betterment of humanity, but cynically, selfishly and insincerely for no other reason than political opportunism. Hilary Clinton who, at this late hour both in her failing campaign and in the countdown to the 2008 Olympics, is no different. A cynical, selfish, insincere, political opportunist. Just like the man subjected to her criticisms.
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saintetienne4 months, 4 weeks ago
"it was on his watch that the US trampled all over basic human rights world wide"
Really, Jaydumbass? Where have human rights been trampled on?
Would that be somewhere in Africa, where the Bush Administration gave $15 billion (far more than any other nation, ever) to help stop AIDS, and where countless villages, once considered dying, are now thriving due to the influx of money and aid?
Or maybe in Iraq, where a heinous dictator who slaughtered millions was deposed (by U.S. forces - thanks to the Bush Administration), free elections were restored, schools built, and an ongoing military presence is trying to keep peace and train a viable police force?
Perhaps in China or India, with whom we've opened up trade, bringing millions out of poverty and making them a viable economic force?
Are these the places we've trampled all over human rights?
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superskateguru5 months ago
There's a big misconception concerning cheap labor in foriegn countries.
Wake up, These poor people in other countries that make a dollar a day for their efforts in thew workplace can actually live on their earnings.
Meanwhile here in the USA A Father and mother who both work and make $640 a week (the minimum wage is $8 and hour in Ca) can barely make it. (after taxes, health care, food...Insurance, there is no money left for their kids education)
Wake up and quit worrying so much about other countries, there's lots of issues here with your own people that you can help with.
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libsRfunny4 months, 4 weeks ago
"There's a big misconception concerning cheap labor in foriegn countries."
Right you are! During a discussion on exactly that concept in grad school, I told them: "Alright, you said they get paid $3 per day. Now, tell me how many gallons of milk and bags of rice you can buy for that $3. I guarantee it's far more than here in the U.S."
I also pointed out a lot of these lefties who protest "suppressed, slave wages" many times just wind up punishing the local communities and families that would benefit from these ventures. If their alternative is poverty and starvation, $3 per day might be a great boon.
As far as minimum wage in the U.S. goes: Don't get married and have kids if you can't afford it. I didn't. It's a big reason I support abortion rights (to an extent) and birth control.
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Grancher5 months ago
Actually wages in China are on the rise, as is a little bit of labor activism, which even has a sort of vague government support when it is used to enforce new labor laws. Prison labor is widely used in China, but most goods come out of factories that have to hire regular working people who make a wage that they can somehow scape together a living off of. Part of the reason their wages look so low in dollars is the exchange rate (which has dropped fairly rapidly recently from around 7.6 RBM/dollar in September of 2007 to about 7 RMB/dollar now) and part of the reason is that many people are extremely poor. But it must be remembered, that while labor is cheap in China, so is most everything else.
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superskateguru4 months, 4 weeks ago
Yes, everything else is cheaper in china, People don't get it because they are fooled by the propaganda machine. Poor, yes they are, their way of life is much more simple than ours. They are glad to have the wage they make a living they are used to. Here, we are taught a lifestyle thats much higher, and the government does little to help its own people to really achieve the ability to rise above the american poverty level.
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superskateguru4 months, 4 weeks ago
Yes, everything else is cheaper in china, People don't get it because they are fooled by the propaganda machine. Poor, yes they are, their way of life is much more simple than ours. They are glad to have the wage they make a living they are used to. Here, we are taught a lifestyle thats much higher, and the government does little to help its own people to really achieve the ability to rise above the american poverty level.
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1-2-Oscar5 months ago
Twenty-five years ago, WalMart, then a rapidly-growing regional retailer based in northwestern Arkansas, got a lot of mileage from an ad campaign in which they emphasized that their company sold American-made products whenever possible, and even worked with localities to develop domestic resources for their products.
Sen. Clinton was member of WalMart's board of directors when the company made a momentous shift away from American-made products and began filling its shelves with goods made in China. I don't think that China's "human rights record" was any better then, but money talks to Hillary Clinton, and principles can be damned if they conflict with her perceived self-interest.
Is it any wonder that so many Americans regard her candidacy as an affront to human dignity? Is there any wonder that we feel insulted when she assumes that our collective memories are no more enduring than her own "moral" stands?
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superskateguru5 months ago
Put all the candidates under the same microscope.
Lets look at bush... Saudi ties are deep with the Bush Family, 911 terrorists were almost all Saudi. Saudi money was found to be behind lots of the funding. Who did we attack? Not the Saudis theats for damn sure.
I seriously doubt that her change of stance on the chinese is any worse than what others have done.
On another note, it is quite possible for someone to gain more knowledge on an issue and change ther mind for the better.
Imagine how many American lives would be spared, not to mention Iraqi's lives if Bush would ever wake up and do the right thing.
I really don't understand people who insist that changing your mind is a bad thing even if the change is obviously the right thing to do.
That all being said, I think we should keep politics out of the Olympics period.
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1-2-Oscar5 months ago
I am happy to put "all candidates under the same microscope."
However, I am unaware of any candidate named "bush" in the current field. Perhaps, sir, you would be so helpful as to enlighten persons like me, who thought that George W. Bush was constitutionally prohibited from seeking another term, and who are unaware of any other member of that family who has decided to seek the office.
I breathlessly await enlightenment!
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nostalgia5 months ago
It's difficult when you see reports like this one:
Olympic torch fiasco: Lord Coe blasts 'horrible Chinese thugs' who barged their way through London
Lord Coe last night condemned the army of Chinese "thugs" who accompanied the Olympic torch through London.
The head of London's 2012 Games described as "horrible" the henchmen who barged their way through the capital, shoving the public and even police out of the way.
His remarks followed those of torchbearer Konnie Huq, who revealed the Chinese minders barked orders at her and pushed her arm up to hold the flame higher.
Wearing blue tracksuits, the 14 minders surrounded the symbolic flame, pushing anyone who tried to get near
It was reported the men have been recruited from Chinese special forces brigades - the feared Flying Dragons and the Sword of Flying Dragons counter-terror units.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/...
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StillUnashamed5 months ago
Hillary is one smart cookie! I don't know if Bush should boycott the ceremony or not but the decision will be made regardless of her advice. But if he does boycott, Hillary can claim that since Bush followed her advice, she is president material. If he doesn't, she can critisize him for coddling human-rights violaters and say that she'd have more backbone, thus appearing more presidential. Either way she looks good. One smart cookie!
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Codi69345 months ago
Protestors should take there protesting to China. I am sure they would love to have them in the country.
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Global_Warmer4 months, 4 weeks ago
"I remember when Jimmy Carter ruined the Olympic athletes dreams..."
I remember Jimmy ruining a lot of people's dreams.
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awongscreen5 months ago
I reiterate what I commented on another story "Olympics Games in China".
Those politicians who want to boycott the Olympics should attend the olympics and condemn the chinese government behaviour in an olympic publicity event right in the capital of china. I think that will be more effective than simply boycotting the olympics.
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Dionys5 months ago
That'd be nice, but it won't happen. Despite China's genocidal actions and constant human rights violations, they remain the US's most favored nation trading partner. It's disgusting.
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jmopinion5 months ago
Wrong way to do it imo. A friend of mine has been living in China for the past several years and says the Chinese people absolutely love Americans. He says you cannot be too aggressive with the Chinese because it really rubs them the wrong way and you can get a lot more positive results by being respectful and stating your case. A different mentality.
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awongscreen4 months, 4 weeks ago
I was born in Hong Kong which is now under China rule. I can tell you the Chinese people love the American life style, not necessary Americans.
But you highlighted a good point in that people cannot separate the nation from the government. Condemn the government is not the same as being a traitor. If you really love the country, criticize or even replace the government officials. Unfortunately, people who do that in china either get killed or end up in jail.
So voicing your objections against the chinese government there is actually being respectful and stating your case.
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vor5 months ago
Laughable. Nevermind that we are borrowing dollars hand over fist from the very same Chinese. They help finance our wars and even the tax rebates we will be receiving starting in May. Until we stop suckling from their teat we can hardly hold the high moral ground.
The Olympics are about athletics. They should not be used as a political playtoy as was done in '78 and '82. You want to protest, that should have been done during the selection process. We should not be surprised that things have not changed.
Hopefully Hillary soon becomes irrelevant. Who are these people turning out en masse to vote for her? She will willfully kill her own party in favor of the survival of her ego.
And why ask GW? If you want something done in his administration turn to the Big Kahuna, DICK!
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Jaydee405 months ago
What countries are there where they have a clean Human rights record and the money to put on a global event like the Olympics?
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canadianrancher575 months ago
The olympics is one of the few times that the nations of the world come together in a competative but non voilent way, it is a chance for people to meet people and not only are there the events but there is also a sharing of ideas between people. Amn talk of boycotts is what I consider complete nonsense, it sort of comes down to the idea that I'm not coming to your house because I'm better than you, great way to makes fiends I think not. As for Clinton advising President Bush, Ya get real.
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markmawn25 months ago
This would be the "cultural" thing to do. China culture is very much centered around "saving face". Clearly by not showing up, China would owe the world an explanation and be forced into action to try and change some of their policies to "save face". If you conform and go along with them, you are approving them, in their own minds. Bush is as good as saying YES to a criminal and unjust regime if he goes there.
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Grancher4 months, 4 weeks ago
This is political garbage. Hillary is just trying to use China's unpopularity to gain a little for herself. What she is suggesting is not boycotting the Olympics, but having the US President not attend the opening ceremony. This would be a bit of a diplomatic and symbolic snub, but otherwise of very little consequence. It is something like Hu Jintao the President of China visiting Bill Gates before meeting George Bush on his trip to the US a few years ago, and George Bush's decision to forgo a state dinner in favor of a 'diplomatic lunch'. These things are symbolic and somewhat provocative, but that is all, it's just a small part of diplomatic positioning. Really this just shows how irrelevant Hillary Clinton is, she has nothing of substance to suggest so she resorts to second guessing diplomatic tactics.
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STronnes4 months, 4 weeks ago
If the United States was serious about the human rights violations in Tibet, they could impose sanctions as has been done in the past.
Politics should not be part of the Olympics and we should not even consider "punishing" athletes because of China's actions. It was wrong before and it is wrong now.
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injest4 months, 4 weeks ago
FTA
"Hillary Clinton is calling on President Bush to boycott this summer's Olympics opening ceremonies to protest China's abysmal human rights record, according to her campaign."
Was she under sniper fire when she decided to protest "China's abysmal human rights record"?
She didn't seem to have a problem with "China's abysmal human rights record" in 1996 when as CO-President she took LARGE donations from China.
There are things money can't buy!
Hillary isn't one of them.
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HMMace4 months, 4 weeks ago
GEORGE BUSH IS AN EVIL MAN...SENDS EVERY ONES KIDS TO DEATH IN IRAQ, BUT NOT HIS, OR CHENYS..
MAKES OUR BOYS SERVE TOUR AFTER TOUR IN IRAQ, BUT=--NOT ANY OF HIS KIDS SERVE.
BUSH IS A MONSTER---
HE MAKES SECRETR DEALS WITH THE SAUDIS, AND FOR THIS HE IS A TRAITOR...
CHENY MAKES SECRET DEALS WITH TH OIL COMPANYS, AND FOR THIS HE TOO IS A TREATOR...
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HMMace4 months, 4 weeks ago
ALL POLITICANS WHO ALLOWED OUR COMPANYS TO MOVE TO A COMMUNIST COUNTRY--CHINA--TO MAKE THIR GOODS TO BE SOLD HERE,,ARE TRAITORS...
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joeblowe4 months, 4 weeks ago
Wouldn't it be funny if China boycotted US - told us not to come - based on our failure to adopt a non-torture policy, and our bombing the crap out of a country that didn't attack or threaten us? Oboy -- talk about red faces!
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bluenote15224 months, 4 weeks ago
This just in:
Bush tells Hillary to Boycott Bill.
Wait...nevermind...she's been doing that ever since Monica.
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CORVIDIVS4 months, 4 weeks ago
CONSIDERING THE MAJORITY... of the 'moral' and it's monopoly in the preserve of being right[as in 'correct'],the good ol' u.s. of a. stands to save billions usually devoted to its devout policing of less civilized nations if only by the dint of hellfire & brimstone alone.Why send needless 'surges',when all a 'preach/teach' need do is wave a warning,admonitory finger at whatever offending body,and the threat of eternal damnation alone should ward off terrorists and make humble Chinas & wutnought from their inhumane paths.No need to boycott... just convert.(Of course, mission funding will needfully be bolstered a lot...)
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CORVIDIVS4 months, 4 weeks ago
... actually the 'Hills' is probably working on the notion that of course Bush won't heed her call,which gives force to a perhaps tacit implication that if HILLs were pres...
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Dionys4 months, 4 weeks ago
"The situation in Tibet is nothing compared to the "massive" humanitarian crisis the US has created by invading and occupying Iraq. "
Most figures put the number of Tibetans killed under Maoist times alone at 600,000-1.2million. The genocide goes on.
Even if you agree that the number of innocents killed by the actions of the US in Iraq is around 600,000 (and a number of independant estimates put it here) they're still behind.
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ETproductions4 months, 4 weeks ago
Amazing. I find myself agreeing with George W. Bush and thinking Hillary is off base on this one. The whole idea of the Olympics from the days of Ancient Greece forward is to hold a sporting event that simply pits athlete against athlete without regard to the politics of where they come from. The original Olympic event was invented to transcend political differences, if only for a few days.
These athletes have spent four agonizing years preparing for the grueling competition. If we start boycotting and protesting because we don't like the politics of the host country, there will never be another Olympics without some group marching with signs and marring the pure competition to see who's the best in their sport.
Fight the political battles somewhere else. For the few days of the Olympics, let the whole world come together and just watch some amazing athletes do what seems superhuman.
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