Barack Obama - known by the company he keeps »
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If he becomes the nominee, Sen. Obama will lose the general election for this reason: When the smiles and platitudes are set aside, Obama's campaign and the philosophy of his cadre amount to one big put-down of America.
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AlphaGnosis3 months, 2 weeks ago
"The president of the United States serves as head of both state and government. As such, the president represents something very personal to Americans. He is, for four or more years, the personification of their country, embodying the aspirations and goodness of the land that they love. A president may disappoint after assuming office, but America is not in the habit of electing candidates who hold their country in contempt.
Not only have the comments of Obama's wife, Michelle (who has referred to America as "downright mean" and stated that she was not proud of her country until her husband started winning primaries) and his minister, Jeremiah Wright (whose hateful, anti-white, anti-American diatribes are available for sale in Obama's church, or for free on YouTube) revealed the tired, leftist scorn for America that Obama represents - the Senator's own remarks have exposed this ugly, unelectable side."
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NoSpinDave3 months, 2 weeks ago
Of course you know ANYTHING that does not jive with the liberal agenda is somehow hateful, racist, bigoted......or usually a combination of the three.
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ybdogsct3 months, 2 weeks ago
ALPHAGNOSIS was against McCain before she was for McCain.
http://humor.propeller.com/story/2008/04/23/san...
And she wasn't the only one.
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tkyrchncs3 months, 2 weeks ago
It often IS one of those TWO (as racism is a form of bigotry), As liberalism is the kinder, gentler way, but it is also racist to refer to anyone as a "typical white person", even if it is your Granny. What do you suppose would happen to ME if I referred to anyone as a "typical black person".
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Lurch3 months, 2 weeks ago
"I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live." - McCain in 2000
Wouldn`t it be interesting if Obama had said the above instead of McCain.
Then how upset would the right be.
Also, wouldn`t it be interesting if instead of denouncing and distancing himself from a hate preaching reverend Obama actually chased after one for his support like McCain has been doing.
Ah, the hypocrisy of the right, like a trusty old warm blanket on a cold winter`s night - it just seems like it has always been there and will never leave.
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tkyrchncs3 months, 2 weeks ago
The spirit of Obama's comment about his Grandmother was the same. Until race can be a matter of indifference to you, you are a racist. Both these men have been mistreated by members of a different race from them, and consequently are spouting crap about whole races. I come from a small place where racism is almost non-existent, in a region where it is and historically has been endemic. It has been a struggle all my life, and I do not easily accept racism in others, regardless of the race or the hater or the hated.
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doggammit3 months, 2 weeks ago
Equating Obama's comments about his granny and pockets of American bred racism hardly equal McCain's racial slur - which took in a lot more territory than Obama's gaffe. You and McClown might feel differently if you were Vietnamese - or perhaps more correctly and parochially - if there were more American Vietnamese with long memories voting come November.
As for "racial indifference" as you put it - I doubt I would enjoy living in a colorless Utopia. The varied colors of our thoughts reflect race, language, culture, religion and other random factors. Different peoples express themselves through these factors and enrich other cultures where and when the opportunity presents. Just like racial discrimination, racial receptivity is never totally blind or "indifferent" to context, condition or prior conditioning.
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tkyrchncs3 months, 2 weeks ago
Crap, pure and simple. Race is not in any way equivalent to culture. One is genetic and the other is learned. References to race beyond physical descriptors are racist. That's it, that's all. Treat everyone respectfully until he deserves less personally. Race only matters when pigment (and a few other physical factors) matters.
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mesodude3 months, 2 weeks ago
I agree. To my knowledge, McCain was targeted by his captors because he was an American and not because of his race. It's possible for anyone of any ethnic origin to be racist but it irks me to hear direct comparisons made between a single racial incident against someone who is white vs bigotry towards black people (who have an entirely different history). The way cons talk about this Rev Wright guy (and granted, we all know it's pure smear tactics), one would think THEY had experienced 300 years of slavery, segregation, oppression, job discrimination, etc. It's shameful and un American, IMO and it perpetuates racial division.
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tkyrchncs3 months, 2 weeks ago
If you think racism is a one-way deal in America, or even was when slavery was legal, then you are sadly mistaken, meso. I have experienced racism, here, and I am a white, middle class, Southern male. The way I most often experience it is the expectation that I am a racist because of that, but I have also been the victim of race-based taunting and assault. It is a shameful, hypocritical thing to cry racism, then exhibit it yourself.
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NoSpinDave3 months, 2 weeks ago
"I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live." - McCain in 2000
Wouldn`t it be interesting if Obama had said the above instead of McCain.
Then how upset would the right be."
Lets see how you would feel about people if we let them do to you for years what they did to him. To hold him to the same standard as everyone else when it pretains to THOSE PARTICULAR PEOPLE is VERY simplistic.
....but liberals are SIMPLE so that makes sense.
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Lurch3 months, 2 weeks ago
My grandpa was shot and almost killed by Japanese, he continued to bleed from the wounds for fifty years after the war (literally), had friends killed by Japanese in horrible ways, and after thirty years he realized his hate and anger were only hurting himself and the people close to him.
In other words, he grew out of it.
Many GIs ended up marrying Vietnamese woman, despite being in the same war as McCain. And McCain got the red-carpet treatment as far as POWs go because of his Daddy.
McCain is campaigning for the most important position in the free world and he doesn't have the emotional maturity of a flea.
To McCain and his racism-apologists I say, get the f over yourselves, nobody cares. We got more important issues.
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mesodude3 months, 2 weeks ago
That reminds me, does anyone else notice how when you look at that pic of Obama, his eyes follow you? Weird, huh? ;-x
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UnusualSuspect3 months, 2 weeks ago
A) If it's not soiled, what is it? Smoke?
B) Not only generalizing, but being pompous, at that.
C) I don't drink coffees of any kind...but I am trying to finish a book...thanks for your advice!
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Goppy3 months, 2 weeks ago
This is fact? ...
"Sen. Obama will lose the general election for this reason: When the smiles and platitudes are set aside, Obama's campaign and the philosophy of his cadre amount to one big put-down of America."
Sorry Tony, you arent GRRRRREAT!
OmegaGnosis is our Christian Conservatives Miss Smear USA.
But of course, we ARE the Fear and Smear Party!
Remember these classics?
"Do we want the smoking gun to be in the form of a mushroom cloud"
"Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."
"If we leave Iraq, the terrorists will follow us here".
"The health care crisis is because of middle class frivolous lawsuites".
"Its PHONEY SOLDIERS who dont support Bush'.
Tony, I sincerely believe that we Christian Conservatives should steer clear of mentionin facts.
We dont believe in facts.
If we did, wed be toast.
Lets stick with what we do best. Swift Boatin and Fear/Smear.
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Locky123 months, 2 weeks ago
Like the fact Obama never said "I LOVE this country".
Like the fact Obama compared his "friend" and terrorist Billy Ayres to a conservative politician whose views he disagrees with.
Like the fact that Obama is just plain vague on his platform and when we look to his associations for some answers we're called racists.
Leave it to libs to stifle debate. We should just vote for Obama to assuage our racist guilt.
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GWHayduke3 months, 2 weeks ago
Brilliant observations lock.
By virtue of things the man DIDNT say, well, that must mean that he believes the opposite.
Like....he never said "I'm not a terra-ist". Hell, he must hate Amerika.
Where's the debate there?
He doesnt wear a US flag lapel pin. He must HATE Amerika.
Lets debate that!
By the virtue of your statements and your supporting logic I can conclude that you are incapable of rational thought unclouded by girlish emotion.
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doggammit3 months, 2 weeks ago
Over the top?!! Naw - Goppy's the flying wedge. I like the way he takes them boogies out at the knees. No need to pile on after Goppy does his thing.
Not like the loyal opposition - which hasn't a leg to stand on to begin with - though we must give them points for being "creative" in their own right wing right.
BUT - after all is said and done, 10,000 monkeys with typewriters do not a Goppy make...
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Beau78903 months, 2 weeks ago
Right. Or as implied in a story I saw posted last week, Obama didn't mention using heroin in a book he wrote, so that must mean he does.
Meanwhile, all these haters seem to keep missing the point--"one big put-down of America" sounds to me like he thinks there are things to be improved here.
Does McCain think everything's fine, and he needs to do nothing if elected? For that matter, I don't think I've heard McCain deny using heroin. Or beating his wives.
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ETproductions3 months, 2 weeks ago
"Does McCain think everything's fine, and he needs to do nothing if elected?"
Yes. He's morphed int John McSame and doing nothing has brought windfall profits to his predecessor. Why change a tactic that's working for you and your wealthy supporters?
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Locky123 months, 2 weeks ago
I'm glad you brought up the flag pin.
Obama did wear a flag pin... One Day.
It was given to him by a Vietnam Vet that practically made him wear it.
He never wore it again.
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Goppy3 months, 2 weeks ago
MAN ALIVE!
You shure know what our nation needs as it faces these multiple crisises.
A flag pin wearer and someone that gesticulates while they sing.
THATS gointa help the middle classes by gum!
But I hear ya!!
We in the middle class aint sophisticated enuf to withstand your onslaught of deep probin into Obamas ideas for changing the status quo of lo these many years.
We prefer to have our attention diverted away from the many problems our nation is encountering by Obams pin wearin and hart holdin stances.
See, NOW do you Middle Class Americans see how little we Ne-Con supporters care bout America? We are willin to do LITTERALLY ANYTHING to divert your attention from discussion bout changing America from the FAILURE of the Neo-Con philosophy ... a philosphy that McCain has come to embrace.
If you want more of what the past 7 years of sufferin that neo-Conism has wrought upon our nation, listen to locky.
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joey-evans3 months, 2 weeks ago
"If only the U.S. could make an undo feature for the vote."
L.O.L.
Perfect Beau, perfect.
JOEY EVANS
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Lurch3 months, 2 weeks ago
> He never wore it again.
Locky, you must be the greatest ninja ever, to follow Obama around 24/7 and not get caught by the SS.
The Last Ninja!
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bamababy3 months, 2 weeks ago
So, by virtue of your statement,you wear an American pin on you lapel everyday? I am in utter astonishment the you are capable of using the word, Rational, given your attempt at rationalizing. How many hours of research have you put in researching these cadidates? 1,3,5,10? Unless you've done your homework throughly you have no rational opinion on any of the candidates. If after hours and hours of digging and reading and most importantly COMREHENDING that which you've read, and,you care to offer an intelligent,rational opinion then please do so. Otherwise nobody wants to waste their time with nonintelligent verbage,thank you.
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SpareChange3 months, 2 weeks ago
WHY SUCH OUTRAGE about rumors and associations
when the guys in washinton are STEALING from the american people everyday!
WHERE IS YOUR OUTRAGE when americans are dying so a bunch of pigs can get rich off a war based on lies?
WHERE IS YOUR HATRED for Cheney who has secret meetings and parties with the Saudis when gas prices are so high?
Why do you people get so fired up about what an angry black preacher says about 911 when Bush gives Bin Ladin, who actually perpetrated 911, a free pass?
You want to hate Obama and will find any excuse to hate him. You're just a sucker for spin, and they're using you to make billions.
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Locky123 months, 2 weeks ago
WHY SUCH OUTRAGE about rumors and associations
Because I get suspicious when all I hear is "change" and when I ask for specifics and get none, so look to other means of acquiring info about the candidate, I'm called a racist.
when the guys in washinton are STEALING from the american people everyday!
Yeah, cause Obama won't steal from me. LOL!
WHERE IS YOUR OUTRAGE when americans are dying so a bunch of pigs can get rich off a war based on lies?
WHERE IS YOUR HATRED for Cheney who has secret meetings and parties with the Saudis when gas prices are so high?
Old argument. Pointless too. If Cheney was 20 years younger, he'd be the republican candidate and he'd wipe the floor with any democrat.
Why do you people get so fired up about what an angry black preacher says about 911 when Bush gives Bin Ladin, who actually perpetrated 911, a free pass?
Osama didn't get a free pass. Obama did-- up until now which is why he's having trouble beating Clinton.
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Lurch3 months, 2 weeks ago
Worst case scenario, electing obama ******es off both the right-wing and left-wing establishments, making them start to listen to the people instead of just feeling entitled to having their political choices automatically made president.
Even if Obama f`s up his first four years on every issue - it won`t be any different than its been the last seven years.
So what are you really afraid of?
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SpareChange3 months, 2 weeks ago
Go ahead and continue to be a sucker for the lies of theives.... It's doing you and your pocket book a lot of good.
I guess if you're happy with the state of the economy, our reputation and the cronyism in washington, then go ahead and do what you've always done - believe and perpetuate the spin.
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mesodude3 months, 2 weeks ago
"Osama didn't get a free pass."
--But wasn't Osama holed up in Afghanistan when Bush cut and ran from that country and made a beeline to baby sit Iraqi oil wells? 'Cause that's the way I remember it. ;-(
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ETproductions3 months, 2 weeks ago
bamamaby, were you not aware that it has been scientifically proven that if we could just have stuck a flag pin in the lapel of Hitler or Stalin or Mao, they would have been instantly transformed into perfect candidates to run this nation.
You are trying to reason with people who are so full of hate and rage after being fed by the RepugniCon slime machine for years that they don't THINK. They ejaculate words in accordance with their feeling.
They feel the Repugs are the party of tax cuts and less government, yet they have watched as their heroes ran up 10 trillion dollars in debt. Who do they feel is going to have to pay that.
They have presided over the largest increase in government and taxes in US history. They transferred all that money they "borrowed" to the wealthiest of Americans, and will leave the bill for the rest of us to pay.
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joeblowe3 months, 2 weeks ago
Once again, it is UNLAWFUL for him to wear a flag pin in his lapel. Just as it would be for you or I -- UNLESS we belong to the VFW or some other patriotic organization.
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Goppy3 months, 2 weeks ago
Now, now.
ONce again. I gotta say ... Pulleeeze dont sell our Neo-cons short!!
"Leave it to libs to stifel debate?!"
We Cons play that game nearly EVERY DING DANG DAY!!
Not only in QWANTITY! But we play the MOTHER OF ALL STIFLES, Lockey!
Liek, "If you aint with us, you are with the TERRORISTS'!
See?
We ARE the STIFFLERS!!
We supported a 'Compassionate Conservative' to launch a pre-emptive war based on lies. And when journalists tried to raise questions bout the reasons for war ... they were SOUNDLY STIFLED by we Christian Conservatives ... who much prefer war to inshurin that kids get health care.
I know, I know, it sounds quaazie, but thats what we do.
Now Locky, if you dont agree with me, you must be with the terrorists.
See? Hows that feel?
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Goppy3 months, 2 weeks ago
The problem is, Omega, we Neo-Cons take a LITTLE fact stir in a load of what ifs, and creative hypotheticals, and through sheear artistry, turn it into 'End of the World Armageddon'.
We LOVE that!
Heck, Rush Limbaugh has made a creer of it.
Here, let me try this on you. Based on your recent story submissions, I bet its liekly to have a VERY negative affect on yours and every right wing member on this thread.
Ready?
This is true now.
K?
McCain cannot deny it because there is proof.
McCain is an ADMITTED, he has admitted that he is a HOMOsapins!
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disraeli3 months, 2 weeks ago
And as we know HOMOsapiens are at the root of all our problems, what with their demands for HOMOsapien marriages and equal rights for HOMOsapiens. They control the banks and the media and the fashion industry and daytime television and the NFL.
No, don't get me started on HOMOsapiens.
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gamahuche3 months, 2 weeks ago
Why should AG bother to think when she can get all the attention she needs by smearing?
Of course she does seek out the most loathsome disinformation that she can possibly spin her malicious webs with and its a marvellous paradox that today's source of vicious innuendo, with the phrase "KNOWN BY THE COMPANY HE KEEPS" in its title derives from an organ owned by the notorious Conrad Black, currently serving a prison term for defrauding his media empire of multi-millions of dollars.
But I guess AG doesn't feel that the company SHE keeps is of much significance, as also evidenced by her wide-mouthed and breathless flirtation with the idiot claimant who alleged that he had gay sex with Obama in a limousine.
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obiefrommuskogee3 months, 2 weeks ago
AH THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH THESE CONS, like AG.
Their opinions are truth and truth is what they think. They are so self-centered that they project truth outward through their own thoughts. They don't have the mental capability to distinguish between what is an established fact externally, and what they happen to be thinking. To them, it's one and the same because, like a black hole, no light enters there from the outside.
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Locky123 months, 2 weeks ago
Oh, Goppy. I'm so sorry. Nobody told you???
I mean, you really should have learned by now, but I'll let you in on the secret anyway.
George W Bush isn't running for re-election.
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Locky123 months, 2 weeks ago
I have no idea what you libs are complaining about.
If John McCain gets into office, you libs will get everything you want anyway.
Gitmo will close. We'll bring terrorists into our courts where they'll have full disclosure rights and our troops in the combat zone will be treated like police officers with questioning on everything from use of force to evidence.
You'll get your Kyoto, even though the SCIENCE is still very inconclusive as to what is causing global warming.
And you'll get regulation of all the industries you hate.
There, feel better now?
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Goppy3 months, 2 weeks ago
I dont see how that will make libs feel better.
McCain already has had to flip flop on all his 'straight talk' in exchange for 'the obsequious express' in order to endear himself to our lunatic fringe.
Now, you might think that is counter productive, but its the lunatic fringe that rules the airwaves.
If you dont get the lunatic fringe on board, you aint gettin elected.
Dontcha remember when Rush Limbaguh was sayin he wouldnt vote for McCain?
HERE!! Check out THIS Link!!!
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelste...
It SPECIFICALLY SAYS that McCain CAINT WIN without Rush Limbaugh and Lou Dobson.
Says they: "Its far too late for forgiveness".
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Now before you chant Libural Media ... it was JOE SCARBOROUGH makin the comments!
SEE?
Even Republicans HATE McCain.
Maybe if he hadnt proven himself to be such a tool.
:-(
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Goppy3 months, 2 weeks ago
No, that would be Goerge W. Bush.
I think McCain might be a tool of the Fascists!!
God, I LOVE it when you throw labels around!!
More DIVERSION from reality.
And liek any Christian Conservative, I LOVE bein diverted from reality.
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But hey, dont you remember be explainin how GW used SOCIALIST tacktics to steal land from middle class Americans?
http://www.propeller.com/member/welfare_made_me...
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gamahuche3 months, 2 weeks ago
OMG!
Well I do believe you're not being sardonic and I hope you'll believe that I'm not being sarcastic..
But perhaps you'll find just enough time to enlighten us as to which parts of the Communist Manifesto you imagine Obama subscribes to - before a real-life Marxist jumps out of the Bushes and bites you on the arse.
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Will13133 months, 2 weeks ago
I'm not a LIB locky12.. any more than YOU'RE A CONSERVATIVE...
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Lurch3 months, 2 weeks ago
> I have no idea what you libs are complaining about.
> If John McCain gets into office, you libs will get everything you want anyway.
And if Obama gets into office, you cons will get everything you want anyway.
Personal responsibi... environmental protection, private property protection (Bush stole private property for personal profits, McCain stole it for political gain), no more wasting resources cowboying around where we don't belong, pay-go fiscal conservatism, and much better defense/military/security than either Bush has or McCain will provide.
And you'll get Fair Trade to boot!
Your dream candidate!
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Lurch3 months, 2 weeks ago
> Like the fact Obama never said "I LOVE this country".
Did you make that up yourself, or did you have help?
Seriously, how do you or any con who has never met the guy in your life know? What BS-artist right-wing nutjob came up with this?
You guys and your lies are just embarrassing America and alienating moderate & independent voters.
Plz, keep it up!
The reason you people whine so much about the people around Obama is because he is a great candidate. The best we can hope for in contemporary politics. Face it.
The only way you can bring his negatives as low as McCains or even Hillarys is to try to attach every gaff of everyone around him to his character. Fact is, McCain alone still has more gaffs (really lies), and McCains aren`t over the difference between `really proud` and `just plain proud`. McCain`s wrong where it will cost many, many lives. And he claims defense is his strong point.
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mesodude3 months, 2 weeks ago
Um...You DO know the difference between a fact and an opinion, do you not?
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somecommonsense3 months, 2 weeks ago
Those weren't facts, they were opinions...big difference.
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Blackacereturn3 months, 2 weeks ago
AG - you just don't stop...I am done having the election with you before it happens. It's idiotic to think that anyone but McCain will lose, you on the right are soooooo afraid of this man if the DEMS can't see that I don't know what to think. You are so afraid of him you are registering now to vote for Hill so that you can get a candidate who would be easier to run against. McCain cant beat any of the two candidates, I saw an analogy earlier that fits " it's like watching the two best teams play for the NFC championship and then have to face an inferior team. The real race is being ran as we speak after that it will be a beat down.
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