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House GOPers Stomping Mad Over Prospects

Politics – The political situation for the GOP is not good, and they aren't even trying to deny it. Asked if Tom Davis thought there should be a change in House GOP leadership, he brought up the 2006 election and the loss of Congress, then wondered aloud why, when "the plane is being flown into the mountain," there has been no change in direction.

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Interesting use of language here:

"the plane is being flown into the mountain.."

Perhaps that fact that they have been steering towards that mountain for 40 years or more may have something to do with that.

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Like a kid left free in a candy store to gorge on the bounty, then sickened by his deed; the Republican party has to come to grips with the reality that this country is in FAR WORSE condition than when it took the reigns.

Is it January '09 yet?

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Why didn`t the flight attendant tell anybody there was a mountain there?

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Flight Attendant?

(perhaps FA is a metaphor for common sense? None on board)

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Maybe because the pilot is on a crusade?

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Have no fear...mntnman is strategically positioned on the mountain and is guiding them in for a safe landing (pay no attention to those power lines)...what do ya mean it's too rocky?...don't worry...those are Patriot rocks.

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"Perhaps that fact that they have been steering towards that mountain for 40 years or more may have something to do with that."

-I guess Filthy Tom has forgotten some of his own kamikaze pilot maneuvers in the GOP (like ganging up with his hypocrite adulterer buddy Newt Gingrich to impeach Bill Clinton over a hummer and, spititng in the face of DC residents by spending millions to slap Ronnie Reagan's name on every structure in the city and, more recently, finally doing some "oversight"--by harassing the NYT about an advertising discount it gave MoveOn.org last fall--good job. Where the hell was your concern for oversight during the first 6 years of the Bush debacle?) It's shake and bake and you halp'd, Tommy. Good riddance to you and your disgusting tramp of a wife. ;-(

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"the plane is being flown into the mountain.."

Bush's answer? "Stay the course!"

As a small business owner, I really want to be a Republican. Before Reagan and his voodoo economics that launched the national debt into the stratosphere, and began the destruction of the middle class, transferring their wealth to the super wealthy, I was a Republican.

But the New RepugniCon party has to reinvent itself (not just rebrand itself). I will never vote for another of the lying, scheming, fear and smear "C" word lot.

I remember a very much better America when I was a kid. And the Reagan Revolution ruined it. The Republican Party of old needs to come back. Loose the librul talk and admit that the Cons and NeoCons have turned a good word, conservative, into the C word -- too ugly to even say in decent company.

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ETproductions:

It's to bad I can only give you one positive vote for that.

Because being a conservative used to mean financially conservative.

Now it means being a shill for the ultra rich.

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"House GOP leaders huddle at 11 a.m. today. That will be watched closely for any possibility of a coup or insurrection against leadership"

There is a strong edge of justice in the way they are forced into hoping that John McCain, of all people, will ride to their rescue.

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Truth is they don't know how to. They ran on fear and separation and at this point the country is too busy worrying about putting food on the table to be afraid, all the money they made under Clinton is gone in gas, and paying for their refinance homes. They want real answers not the same old non issues. It's also hard to stop being who you are this tactic had worked so well for them that they really don't know how to change. I said this beforeâ;¦ they are like the old lady still wearing the beehive hair style because it was the style at the best time of her life, and to stop wearing that style is to put an end to her good thing. It will take an entire new generation of republicans to get that party back on track. You can only lie for sooo long before people ask you to leave and that's what is happening. You can't keep blaming Clinton and everyone else for our problems if you have been in power for 7 years.

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At some point you have to grow up and take responsibility for your actions. My advice to those who want to be reelected is to make a public apology and an about face in your position, what elected officials forget is the Party don't vote people do. If your party is off the tracks like the GOPers are then make a move denounce them and right the ship.

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However they have done it, neocon extrenists have hijacked the controls of the former GOP and aligned America's overall direction with their globalist self interests. I view them as a virus that has infected the host and sapped it of its former integrity. Those standing for traditional party values - such as Ron Paul, have been effectively alienated and I suppose it is finally dawning on a few grey heads that neocon interlopers are using the body and the reputation of the GOP to pursue expansionist interests that set the clear divide between unrestrained empire building in the classical Roman sense, and republican self interest, in the more restrained nationalist context.

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http://washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/articl...

"Republicans put an extraordinary effort into trying to keep the Mississippi seat, including sending Vice President Dick Cheney to campaign, and spending what Mr. Van Hollen said was 20% of House Republicans' campaign committee budget.

'There is no district that is safe for Republican candidates,' said Rep. Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, who pointed out the historic nature of Democrats' performance this year, noting it's been three decades since Democrats last won three new seats in special elections.

Brian Rogers, a spokesman for Mr. McCain, said the Mississippi loss is 'another indication that we as Republicans have a lot of work to do.' Fissures are growing between top leaders themselves. In an interview with The Washington Times on Tuesday Mr. Boehner criticized Mr. Cole's approach to the elections."

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-sweeney/repub...

"In Mississippi's first congressional district, Democrat Travis Childers beat Republican Greg Davis. A few words about the district. It is red. Bright red. The sort of red that makes your sports car a target for speed traps.

Mississippi's first congressional district? R plus 10. And the district is the third special election we've had this year. The first, in Hastert's old 14th district in Illinois, went to Democrat Bill Foster over Republican Jim Oberweis, 53-47. That district is R plus 5. In the second contest, in Louisiana's 6th district, Democrat Don Cazayoux beat Republican Woody Jenkins in an R plus 7 district. And now, R plus-freaking-10, and the Republicans lost by about six points. If that is a sign of things to come, the Democrats could be looking at mind-bogglingly huge pick ups in the House, especially in blue states with widespread soft Republican districts."

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hahaha - 'the president swallows the microphone every time he opens his mouth.'

Man, do I hope those chickens come home to roost.

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http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/05/07/...

"Shellshocked House Republicans got warnings from leaders past and present Tuesday: Your party's message isn't good enough to prevent disaster in November, and neither is the NRCC's money.

The double shot of bad news had one veteran Republican House member worrying aloud that the party's electoral woes — brought into sharp focus by Woody Jenkins' loss to Don Cazayoux in Louisiana on Saturday — have the House Republican Conference splitting apart in "everybody for himself" mode."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...

"Since losing 30 seats and their 12-year stranglehold on power in 2006, House Republicans have kept asking themselves the same question: Can it get any worse? On Tuesday, they may get another answer they won't like.

Independent analysts agree that a loss Tuesday would leave Republicans with no excuses."

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FTA "This is the floor," he said, by way of explanation. "We're below the floor."

In Washington speak that means that under the leadership of George W. Bush the Republican's integrity is now lower than a snakes belly in a wagon rut as opposed to their integrity before the W. Bush administration when it was lower than a snakes belley in a wagon rut.

On the bright side there is no where to go but up providing Bush resigns today else the republicans will have to wait until January to move anywhere on restoring the integrity they never had.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080514/pl_b...

"Democrat Travis Childers won a U.S. House election in Mississippi, marking the third time since March that the party has picked up a congressional seat and increasing Republican concerns about major setbacks in the November elections. Childers got 54% of the vote to 46% for Republican Greg Davis.

The result sends 'a political thunderbolt across America' and shows the Democrats can compete everywhere. 'There is no district that is safe for Republican candidates.' Newt Gingrich wrote in the newspaper Human Events last week that unless Republicans change they will 'suffer decisive losses this November.'"

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087...

"U.S. House Republicans said an election loss in Mississippi yesterday may portend widespread voter rejection in the November races, and some are advocating distancing themselves from President George W. Bush's policies."

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There are two choices. Change tactics or change behavior. Tactics are a way to mask behavior. Seeing through the mask, behavior is all that is left, and that ain't going to change in this generation.

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It sounds to me like the Republicans are in deep doo doo.

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That's fairly obvious from they way they keep grasping at straws in the forlorn hope that they can keep the SS Republican Party afloat if the grab enough.

They should have thought of trying to do something for the Nation years ago instead of pandering to the corporate, right-wing religious, and special interests they way they have!

The phrase "hoist by one's own petard" comes to mind and I am certainly going to enjoy watching them squirm!

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It was inevitable that the GOP self destruct under the present leadership. How the party of small government and limited intrusion into private affairs has now became the party of BIG BROTHER.....

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It really is amazing.

They were against national ID cards before they were for them. They were for limiting executive authority before they were for the unitary executive. They were for small government until the largest expansion of government. They were against nation building until they were in favor of it. They were for fiscal conservatism until they were for deficit spending.

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That is a sad testament to power begetting power and a tragic sign of what is wrong with government today in this country.

So what does the next president do? Demand that we pay for what has been done in the previous two terms w, which is probably for the good of the country and most likely political suicide, or ignore the need to reestablish our fiscal well-being in this country and keep on the spending road that the last two terms have set as a benchmark.

I wonder at times of the possibility that this is actually a very long-term plan to change our governmental structure. Spend more money than the previous liberal administration while cutting taxes. This will make for an almost impossible scenario for the next administration. Do the current republican leadership really want to win this term or would it be better to come in and *rescue* the country in 2012, ironically from a problem of their own making?

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I very much doubt they will "pay" for seven years of lies, economic devolution and unprovoked wars. How they escape is the next phase of the "plan" - which is - as i see it - to segue quickly into another war, delcare a state of emergency - traumatize America with more fabricated terror and while the cauldron boils, set up final props for the NAU - after which, the entire political landscape will change dramatically - with all the totalitarian implements coming to the fore and no longer giving the pretense of a constitutional republic - much less a representative democracy. All "priors" will be dropped as the flow of "accountability" dissolves into state control.

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Were it not for partisan bandwagon politics, we might have seen what outsiders took for a fact years ago. and the fact is - for he last seven years America has been frog marched into a no-choice solution by a small group of ideologues. At present, it would take very little to complete the transition into a totalitarian mega state. Not only that, there are ample sympathizers and supporters established in high places elsewhere - our "allies" - who appear to be as deeply embedded in this proposal as any neocon. It would be very hard to turn back and disappoint them at this stage - and I totally doubt that even a Democratic victory spells any kind of divorce from CFR inspired lunacy. Come hell or high water, we are heading in this neocon inspired direction. Brace yourselves for more shock and awe. It's coming whether we like it or not.

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Scary stuff. I don't doubt that our government is capable of anything.

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Cool Walden, Doggy speaks the truth. What I interpretated was to confirm Bush's dream of controlling Iraqi AND Iranian oil, AND Bush oil. Together almost impossible to defeat. Too damned many buckoos, for this ol' head to give a rat's-ass.

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It would be so easy to whoop and holler with laughter and glee at the demise of the Repugnant Party, if it wasn't for the fact that they have screw us and our country and whoever wins in '08 will have a mess on their hands. Our country's infrastructure is badly in need of repairs and new construction that we are in no position to pay for, our economy is in ruins with the dollar at an all time low and being supplanted by other currencies, our military capabilities have been eroded, our constitution has been trampled and all the while the poor gets poorer and the rich gets richer and the middle class is crumbling. But on the bright side, Bush and the Repugnants will no longer be in a position to "stay the course".

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It couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of fellows. I mean considering their family values and all I just don't understand how or why the citizenry of this country are abandoning the republicans like they committed a catastrophic social blunder. The public acts like the murder and mayhem in Iraq is tantamount to passing gas at a GOP fund raising event or like the Dixie Chicks publicly criticizing the great and illustrious Decider. What a strange, strange world we reside in!

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GOP: "Mountain ahead sir! Mountain!"

Bush: "Stay the course!"

GOP: "But sir, we'll crash! We'll crash!"

Bush: "Mission accomplished."

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Twain says, "five stones." Yes, you Mark, one of my very best writers these shores has had: Sam Clemmons. Sam could have saved Bush time, had he bothered to listen. Bush's a constant reminder if you think of garbage, don't get riled when you vote that way...

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Despite the 2006 historic Congressional losses, despite all the facts and the mood of the people...despite all that the Republicans chose another `stay the curse` candidate.

These people and this party deserve every smack down for the damage they have done to lives and to future prosperity.

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1) 107 out of 111 delegates were elected who favor Ron Paul and his positions. Only 4 delegates were elected who favor McCain. This was a HUGE and unexpected upset that surpassed the wildest expectations of everyone in our group.

2) Perhaps the most far-reaching and controversial platform position originated from the grass roots organization. It was a statement under the National Sovereignty And Defense heading, "Limiting the executive privilege of committing troops to police actions to a duration of 180 days, without a Congressional Declaration of War" (as the Constitution mandates).

http://militantlibertarian.blogspot.com/2008/05...

It is interesting if you read the article to see the many ways McCain supporters tried to thwart the fair democratic election of the delegates in #1 above.

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I think the GOP is hopeful that Hillary will run on the Ind ticket and split the Dems right down the middle, it's their only hope and they know it. Let's just hope she isn't mean spirited enough to fall for their shameful games.

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Likewise, there are many who wish Ron Paul would run on the Libertarian ticket.

If McCain had to run against Obama and Paul, he would be lucky to get third place in November.

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Now there's a plan i could support! lol

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Let's hope Obama is listening in... Obama -Paul sounds good to me too!

I don't put a thing past Hillary. McCain? Same deal. The living dead shouldn't be allowed to run for office. But in this movie, you know they'll just keep on coming.

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Let's just hope she isn't mean spirited enough to fall for their shameful games.

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I can't IMAGE that she would do that. After ALL the screaming she has done about Nader costing Gore the White House. Her running would be political suicide (she wouldn't be able to run for DOG CATCHER). She has way too many political plans to commit suicide.

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GOPPartymember: Sir, we're all out of cake, all that is left is the icing. We can't have cake without icing, can we?

GOPLeader: "Just order more icing"

GOPPartymember: "But sir, there's no more cake!"

GOPLeader: "Order more icing! This time order the Blue!"

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Didn't know any better, I'd swear you to be Samuel Johnson! A man of few words, but valued highly for those words spoken.

Isn't the grand, pray thee,

to understand the message therein

Who knows what bring 'marrow

let the boogie-woogie begin.....

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Good article and the likes of the 20%'s no where to be seen. I guess reading about how Obama once stuck chewing gum under his school desk is far more revealing then finding out htier ship is sinking fast and they're still calling for more speed.

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At the moment, I believe they're all whackin' off over another one of AG's bogus Hillary stories based on a silly Drudge report poll.

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What a fun thread.

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Goppy...99.345% of the time I totally agree with you...

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Goppy...99.345% of the time I totally agree with you...

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Goppy....99.345% of the time I totally agree with you.....

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It's funny (ha-ha type funny) that this article alludes to a "solution" offered by Tom Davis, who, in fact, has opted to leave the House rather than be defeated in November.

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