Politics – With each passing day, it seems a little less likely that the next president of the United States will wear a skirt - or a cheerful, no-nonsense pantsuit.
For me it was never about her gender. It is more about who she is and how she has been groomed for this spot since before Bill left office.
It took 6 years to get Democrats elected again after they left. I don't want a return the their scandals. It's time to look to the future of the party, not the past.
Which is, of course, why Bill Clinton left the White House with 60% approval ratings, and Al Gore got a majority of the vote in 2000.
Of COURSE this means that he left the Democratic Party in ruins. After all, he only unseated a sitting President, got re-elected, and left enough capital for his chosen successor to get a majority of all votes cast, AFTER all the scandals.
"Sexism has played a really big role in the race."
I disagree. As a woman I would love to see a Democrat woman president, but not her. We've had 4 years of a Bush followed by 8 years of a Clinton and 8 years of another Bush. I want to see new blood in the office. I have many issues w/ all the Bushes and Clintons. While Bill Clinton did many good things as president he wasn't that great. His shenanigans with Monica Lewinsky damaged our party and the hopes for a Democrat filling his shoes after his term in office- he essentially placed the welcome mat on the WH front steps for GWB and we've all paid dearly for that. Should we blame her for his faults? No. But again I'd rather see a fresh face in the WH.
With each passing day, it seems a little less likely that the next president of the United States will wear a skirt - or a cheerful, no-nonsense pantsuit.
I never hear anyone talking talking about Obama's cloths. If I have heard one pantsuit joke I have heard a thousand so I think it did play a big part. It has not been overt most of the time but it has always been there.
The Clintons have been a very important part of the democratic party for a lot of years and Hillary has worked hard for the party. Bill Clinton was hounded by Ken Star and the right wing from before he was president and they found his weakness. If Obama gets the nomination I will support him but I think the Clintons deserve our thinks for all they have done for the party and this country.
I agree that Bill was hounded by the Republican investigations, but that was all the more reason to keep it in his pants. His actions hurt the party and the country. Not to mention that the Republicans knowing that Hillery's run was inevitable have had all this time to stockpile even more stuff to hit her with. For the good of the party she needs to stand aside and help bring this party together instead of continue to tear it apart.
"I never hear anyone talking talking about Obama's cloths. If I have heard one pantsuit joke I have heard a thousand so I think it did play a big part. It has not been overt most of the time but it has always been there."
No you haven't heard about Obama's clothes...but you sure as hell have heard about the color of his skin.
I don't think gender was an issue in the democratic primary, whereas in a general election against a white male, it may have become an issue. But in an election where her opponent was a black person, I think race is more of a concern to more people than gender.
I have no quarrel with most of what you say, but for me, Hillary was her own worst enemy! First she tried whining, then she tried attacking, then she tried whining and attacking, then she tried lying, then she tried lying and attacking, then she played the race card! I think she truly underestimated the brilliant young senator and did not give him the respect due a true and viable opponent. Bill Clinton didn't help either, but a lot of it was her own undoing. She exercised very bad judgment in her actions and statements while running for the office of president, and now she has campaign debts out the ying yang to deal with...not a good sign of fiscal responsibility, which will be sorely needed in this troubled economy!
Sorry, it had nothing at all to do with gender for me, either.
I want to see someone of the strength, and character of a Margaret Thatcher. America does not have such a woman at this time. But I also want someone who at least has the experience to know you cannot just willy nilly pick up the phone and chat with the likes of a M. Ahmadinejad. That is just childish whim.
Ani, I agree with the first part of your statement but as far as the "chatting" part. We need to return to real diplomacy, even our military leaders agree on that. Shouting rhetoric has gotten us nowhere, in fact it has made things worse.
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Hillary Clinton is losing because she's obnoxious, falls to peer pressure, has a bad record of opinion on the Iraq War and hasn't done anything for health care in all her years and in the time she's been saying she would; not because she's a woman.
Obama wants to get us all nuked fighting Iran and praises Ariel Sharon who drops bombs on Palestinian apartment buildings.
I don't even know IF I'm gonna vote this year, but the 3rd party Mike Gravel seems to me to be the best.
Hillary Clinton is losing because she's obnoxious, falls to peer pressure, has a bad record of opinion on the Iraq War and hasn't done anything for health care in all her years in the time she's been saying she would; not because she's a woman.
Obama wants to get us all nuked fighting Iran and praises Ariel Sharon who drops bombs on Palestinian apartment buildings.
I don't even know IF I'm gonna vote this year, but the 3rd party Mike Gravel seems to me to be the best.
It actually is a race issue.
All the blacks are voting for Obama because he is black.
I'm not going to judge the reasons why... but the UN is sending a rapporteur to investigate racism in this election. I'm not sure why... the gist of the article I read seemed to say that they were afraid Obama would lose due to whites refusing to vote for him. The UN is forgetting it has no official power to do a thing about it if they uncover anything like that. So they are wasting money, time and effort.
The U.N. is firmly behind Obama because he signed on to their Millenium Declaration--which includes policy that flies in the face of the U.S. Constitution--and he is advocating for their Millenium goals. The U.N. has moved in the shadows to control U.S. policy without congressional or citizen approval to take control of U.S. national parks, undermine our second amendment, and a lot more.
They are opportunists and see Obama as much friendlier to their cause than McCain.
"All the blacks are voting for Obama because he is black. "
He's black? Why didn't anyone tell me this.
Last time I checked he was 'half' white, 'half' African American.
So if he's 'black' is that by the racist definition of anyone with a drop of African blood in them is 'black'? Because that pretty much includes every single person on earth (as we're all essentially out of Africa).
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I don't think it was gender. It was the fact that she ran against a better campaigner and speaker who had almost identical policy positions to her. Several nuances in Senator Clinton's policies struck me as distasteful and I'm sure struck others a distasteful as well. I think Senator Obama capitalized on that and on the general political mood of the United States at the time. Bill helped her in some ways but hurt her with the media and some of the establishment. I get the feeling he stepped on some toes while in office and some of the negative coverage was a way of getting back at him. Not fair, but hardly because Senator Obama and the voters were sexist. I say don't punish Senator Obama in November for what the media did and the voters finally decided. He had no power over them.
He may be a more eloquent speaker (though I don't really see it), but he's not better in debates. Mostly for lack of specifics as to how he will bring about his pipe-dream for America (which sounds wonderful, but is about as substantial as cotton candy).
I think Hillary's current "loss" (she holds the majority *popular* vote) is due to the media constantly saying she's losing and should drop out. From the very beginning this was the media's "line" and didn't reflect the truth when she had a majority of delegates and shouldn't hold true now when she still holds a majority.
The whole purpose of the convention is to pick the presidential nominee -- not to simply hold an already decided vote. I say let them both continue competing.
Including every single state that has voted, as best we can, Obama is currently leading in the popular vote by 83,000 votes. In the debates he has grown. His policies, when you look at them, are about as fleshed out as Clinton's. From the very beginning the media's line was that Hillary would be crowned the Democratic nominee. Obama was a nobody at the start. I agree, let her keep competing. Lets also include Florida... and reach a compromise in Michigan in which Obama receives the probable amount of votes he would of received had his name been on the ballot. He shouldn't be penalized for following party rules on that one.
Oh, for popular vote totals:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/pr...
"(she holds the majority *popular* vote)"
This is a lie.
"From the very beginning this was the media's "line" "
Funny, I don't remember the "media" touting this.
When did she ever have a "a majority of delegates" This is another lie.
Wow, Dionys you just can't help yourself.
In Pennsyvannia Hillary won by 200,000 votes!
Now Hillary got 10 delegates with that 200,000 vote gain.
While Obama got 13 delegates with the 13,000 vote gain in Idaho.
Interesting how our delegate system works.
Its all based around how the vote splits up in the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party should go for a pure popular vote or back to what the Republican Party does, truth be told. The first one promotes a more true democracy. The second one will make them win more elections.
Hillary is a woman? Hhhmm...I'll be...The pantsuits fooled me I guess.
I thought her "Thighness" was an ex-runningback for the NFL.
Your comments have been neged for general stupidity.
It's "negged, not "neged." Your's got negged for specific stupidity. You can't spell.
Actually, "negged" is not a word but only a urban colloquialism. We use the word on Propeller a lot colloquially. Therefore, there is no correct official spelling of the word. Too, "neged" may be more officially closer to the correct spelling coming from a Hebrew word.
http://strongsnumbers.com/hebrew/5048.htm
As further evidence "negged" is incorrect spelling, use your speller check and see what it says. It will say you are wrong and as stupid as the guy you are falsely accusing. Therefore, I am giving you a neg (my speller check says correct) for your stupidity in which you much deserve.
Google "negged," j ackass.
yes, Google negged, but what I said is true dip sh.it. Now, find the word in the dictionary other than an urban dictionary which says it is a game word not used like we use it on Propeller. Damn, you are dumber than a stump. It is still misspelled, and everyone is laughing at you.
Remember your post and repeat it to yourself next time I hit the neg button.
I should give her a break. Without the pantsuit, how would she hide her schlang?
Awww c'mon Drop. I went along with it but that's going a little bit too far.
You're right. I don't know for a fact that she has one. That bulge in her pantsuit could be something else.
"Hillary is a woman? Hhhmm...I'll be...The pantsuits fooled me I guess."
Having seen your many posts supporting this administration it's apparent to most people on here how easily fooled you are.
Come on Guys you always had fun calling Ann C a man, you can dish it but you can't take it?
Now hurry and collect your check from what remains of Clinton's campaign funds. You've proven that you're a loyal Lib.
John Kerry in a pantsuit