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Posted By not2needy 4 months, 1 week ago in NewsBarack Obama spoke directly with his vanquished rival Hillary Rodham Clinton on Wednesday and expressed optimism they could achieve party unity after their bruising battle for the Democratic presidential nomination. He also accused Republican rival John McCain of supporting a "plan for staying, not a plan for victory" in Iraq.
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not2needy4 months, 1 week ago
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As he traded jabs with McCain over national security policy, Obama visited the Senate where Democrats and Republicans shook his hand and congratulated him. The Illinois senator disclosed he had spoken with Clinton, who was not in the Senate, earlier on the day after he claimed the nomination and she stopped short of conceding.
"I just spoke to her today, and we're going to be having a conversation in coming weeks. And I'm very confident how unified the Democratic party's going to be to win in November," Obama told reporters as he left the Senate.
I just wonder if she would have called him had she won!
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Bkumm4 months, 1 week ago
"I just wonder if she would have called him had she won!"
That's a very interesting point. He can claim at least as many (depending on the math) popular votes so...
She's starting to strike me as bitter.
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not2needy4 months, 1 week ago
She does seem bitter about this whole thing, and personally i think she can only blame her campaign tactics and her husband for the outcome of this process.
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Bkumm4 months, 1 week ago
I don't care about blame one way or the other. She needs to get over herself and strongly endorse Senator Obama. She needs to encourage her supporters to do so and get on the road and campaign for Senator Obama as if her life depended on it.
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not2needy4 months, 1 week ago
I agree. She's already said that she would consider being the VP, but how can she expect Obama to take her seriously if she won't even show some class??
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Bkumm4 months, 1 week ago
I don't agree with the way that Father Pfleger said what he did, but he was absolutely right about her sense of entitlement. I think it had less to do with race, as he suggested, than it did with her gender and her name.
Sadly, she seems to have difficulty letting that go. She is an enormous asset to the Party.
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TemplarScribe4 months, 1 week ago
For those who listened closely to Obama's Tuesday night speech, you'll notice the section where he mentions Hillary working toward getting her important health care legislation passed. That's definitely an indication that he'd be glad to have her in his cabinet, but a gentle reminder that she's not at the top of his list of VP candidates.
The question is, will Hillary accept a much lower profile position, or will her ego drive her to an all or nothing point? I truly hope she buries her dreams and accepts reality. And the position in his cabinet.
BTW: In an interview tonight (Wednesday) on CBS, Obama mentioned again Hillary's desire to get health care legislation passed. The writing's clearly on the wall.
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CRYMTYPHON4 months, 1 week ago
What's the strategy of 'operation chaos' lately?
The Wall-Street Journal hopes that Obama would not be 'bullied' into having her as VP; that should mean they think she would be a good choice.
Limbaugh said Obama/Clinton would be a dream ticket, but was that chaos? And whose is the dream?
So when you say she would be a liability, does that mean she would be an asset?
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joeblowe4 months, 1 week ago
Fr. Flakey might well have been correct, HOWEVER - the REAL problem is that a member of the clergy has NO BUSINESS making political comments. The correct thing would be for the IRS to go to that church and present a bill for back taxes.
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helloworldbea4 months, 1 week ago
Basically, she should cut her losses while she still has some clout.
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mesodude4 months, 1 week ago
I think she seems more defiant than anything. I'm imagining being in her shoes and wanting to holdi off on using the "c" (as in concession, capitulaton, congratulations, "crap, I've lost") word until the last possible moment. If I were in her shoes I might also want to hold on to that power (of being partly the one to determine where her supporters turn to next).
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cowboygrandpa4 months, 1 week ago
n2n:
She thought she had it in the bag, she didn't even have to work for it.
She could not conceive that Obama might actually present himself as a better choice.
I for one am glad that she is not going to be the nominee.
I will be interested to see how things start to shake out for Obama.
I have the feeling he will do well. I sure hope so. America needs a strong leader and a change in direction.
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Blackacereturn4 months, 1 week ago
She needs to get out of the way. This is no longer fun or funny she is starting to become a problem. He still have to deal with her instead of turning his attention on McCain. I cant see where this is good for the Party! And she is starting to look like a spoiled pouting kid!
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joey-evans4 months, 1 week ago
Yeah, I guess it is rather easy to make a call after an apparent victory huh?
Come on you guys...
JOEY EVANS
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not2needy4 months, 1 week ago
No you come on Joey, if Hillary had won, she would have her face so stuck in a camera, calling Obama would be the last thing on her mind. Obama is gracious and has a lot of class. Hillary can blame her sense of entitlement, her tactics and her husbands outrages for the outcome of this primary.
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joey-evans4 months, 1 week ago
n2n, you obviously have been doing battle with the posters here for far too long if you actually believe that if the tables were turned so to speak, Clinton would not have made the same sort of call to Obama.
Please! Stop and THINK for a second....perhaps you could learn from Obama on how to win with grace? I am not saying that to attack you...just think of what you are putting out there. You are better than that...or at least that is what I believed.
JOEY EVANS
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not2needy4 months, 1 week ago
I'm not "against" Hillary.. If that's what you think or are implying.. But it's time for her to try to unite the Democratic party and bow out gracefully. That's when she will become a viable candidate for VP, not while she's still in attack mode against Obama.
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jordan114 months, 1 week ago
But it's time for her to try to unite the Democratic party and bow out gracefully. >>>
Who is saying the democratic party isn't united? Why would anyone believe that 18 million people need to be told what to do, before it is united? Some liked her, some liked Obama. I contributed to Obama's campaign & voted for him. But had he lost, I wouldn't have walked away from the most important issue at hand which is getting CONS out of our government. I'd have voted for Clinton.
Why would I believe Clinton supporters wouldn't vote for Obama? I certainly don't believe they're a bunch of dunces who need the nod from anyone before they would.
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Bkumm4 months, 1 week ago
I agree with you, but it seems there are many who don't, including, by her own words, Senator Clinton.
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jordan114 months, 1 week ago
Yes, that's a bit bothersome that she appears to feel an ownership of 18 million people, while in contrast Obama didn't talk about himself, and focused on the ownership of government being with the people. But that's her problem, I figure, and I'll respect the voters more than to worry about her influence over them.
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Bkumm4 months, 1 week ago
Yes, it is bothersome. It concerns me perhaps more than it should. This has been a war nearly to the knife for the Democratic Party. We'll have to see how it shakes out.
I hope you're right, but from what I've seen lately, my faith in the voting public isn't as strong as it should be.
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bruhaha4 months, 1 week ago
I think that most Clinton supporters will vote for Obama; however, you will have a select few who will vote for McCain or won't vote at all. Don't know how many though.
There are those out there who are racist and xenophobic and there are those out there who typically wouldn't have voted at all except for the fact that they wanted a woman. Just as there would be Obama supporters who wouldn't vote for Clinton in the general.
And don't forget the possible hundred's of thousands of republicans who only voted for Clinton because a) they thought she would be easier to beat or b)wanted to keep the race for the Democratic Party nomination going as long as possible. I highly doubt that too many of these will vote for Obama in the general....not that they would have voted for Clinton either.
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slate4 months, 1 week ago
I want to personally congratulate you in the Democratic party in finally ending this long primary season. It's a historic day, the first of what will be many presidents of African descent.
Remember, we now have two individuals here, Obama isn't the Clintons and McCain isn't a Bush. Keep that in mind and discuss each 'individuals' policies and the pros and cons of each argument. This is a very important election cycle after all.
Good luck to both candidates. May the vote be fair and so decisive that no recount is needed in November! Amen and Amen,,,
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not2needy4 months, 1 week ago
jordan, you and i have always agreed on this and we still do, but the longer she hangs on the more strain she puts on the Dems, and the more time she gives McCain and his team to formulate strategy. It's harmful, and it's definitely not making her an attractive choice as VP, if that's what she's holding out for.
If she had won the nomination, i would have been behind her 100 percent, and if Obama was acting the way she is, i would be saying the same thing about him, however i honestly believe he would have conceded and congratulated her, long ago.
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bruhaha4 months, 1 week ago
"If she had won the nomination, i would have been behind her 100 percent, and if Obama was acting the way she is, i would be saying the same thing about him, however i honestly believe he would have conceded and congratulated her, long ago."
Hillary was planning this run for president for a long time, which is why she ran for the senate in the first place (in my opinion). She had been planning on running a lot longer than I believe Obama had. Add that to the fact that from the start, I do believe that she thought she had the nomination locked up, and you see why it might be harder for her to "let go." Not defending her, just saying.
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not2needy4 months, 1 week ago
Oh, absolutely, i understand completely. And i know it's got to be hard for her, but she's not helping her cause or the cause of the Democratic party here. High ranking Dems have called for her concession, for weeks, and her only defense is the 13 million people who voted for her should be counted. THEY HAVE BEEN COUNTED, and it wasn't enough! She's a smart woman, extremely intelligent, i just can't understand her unwillingness to let go. Even Bill said he would NEVER do this again.. It's time!
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nellobsh4 months, 1 week ago
Nope, I'm talking about the color card, race, let them cross the border and obama's folks can take advantage of the government goodies. And the muslims can come right in our country and reap the rewards. I wonder who will be the minority if a ... obama is elected? Looking for a novelty this year?
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nellobsh4 months, 1 week ago
Well, name calling? Must be some kind of kickback for the border thing maybe? Check in on how many border folks have been shot down? Media doesn't have that one do they?
This whole dem fight has been a color vs. woman race.
How about the important issues?
I wish I knew where we could find the novelty you have in mind! Idiot!
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Ciera-Marie4 months, 1 week ago
did not mean to vote for or against this comment. I actually disagree with nellobsh's comment.
I was trying to vote for N2N's.
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HannibalBarca4 months, 1 week ago
JOEY: before the race even started she was picked to win, and Osama is a wild card, something that those who really pick the winners never counted on,.
I am sure that they are not going to let their chosen one to lose.
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joey-evans4 months, 1 week ago
"Osama"???
Don't worry too much about it Hanni....I bet you will know his real name after it is all said and done.
JOEY EVANS
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nellobsh4 months, 1 week ago
I disagree. she would have made the call, because it is the right thing to do.
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Bkumm4 months, 1 week ago
What are you saying? I'm not sure that if Senator Clinton had won that she wouldn't have had the magnanimity to call Senator Obama. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Bkumm4 months, 1 week ago
Okay. No more time for speculation.
What she has said so far is not conciliatory nor is it unifying to the Democratic Party. That's not speculation, that's fact. He, on the other hand, has been conciliatory and has congratulated her on an outstanding campaign and has praised her highly.
She ran a fine, historic race. That's over now. Let's get on with the business of not only beating Senator McCain, but putting a bulletproof majority of Democrats in the House and Senate.
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bluetexasvalley4 months, 1 week ago
The "loser" is supposed to call the winner, not vice-versa.
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cushi4 months, 1 week ago
I must say I think you are on this one, pal. Hillary has shown condescension and disrespect for Barack Obama as an equal. No sooner than she won her first primary, she offered him "the vice presidential slot." How arrogant was that?
Throughout the course of this competition, she has misjudged, mismanaged, misspoke (being charitable), misbehaved, and plain long missed the mark!
She has NOT represented herself or women in general well! She has cried, complained, pouted, pounced, accused, raged, insulted, fraternized with the enemy, and behaved like a bi-polar pariah with permanent PMS!
She continues to blame everybody but herself for her failure to secure the nomination, and expects the person who won to kiss her big fat unappealing arse in deference!
I can fully understand and sympathize with Bill's roving eyes now, though his behavior has been equally abominable! I don't want either of them too closely involved. They are toxic!
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Blackacereturn4 months, 1 week ago
I am sorry Joey I don't get your point? I have been making this call for months now just so you know.
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HannibalBarca4 months, 1 week ago
I still do not trust her, she is a schemer and as such I don't think we have heard the last of her.
Obama should not turn his back onher
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Bkumm4 months, 1 week ago
I'm with you there. She wanted to win and now she'll push for her day in the sun even if it brings down the Party.
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cushi4 months, 1 week ago
I listened to her speech at AIPAC, and she sounded like she was the presumptive nominee...even bashing Obama indirectly for his willingness to at least dialogue with those organizations with whom we have great enmity. Unless I missed it, I have yet to hear her congratulate Obama on winning the nomination!
She is like a stinking 3-day old corpse that refuses to lie down! Peeeee-ewwwww!!
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not2needy4 months, 1 week ago
I agree cushi. I would have given her more credit for having the class and social grace to bow out with a modicum of dignity. She's proven me wrong.
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Bkumm4 months, 1 week ago
I'm not sure I would go the whole zombie route just yet! LOL>>>
It's killing her that she got this "" close, but couldn't quite pull it off. It's got to be hard for her, but for heaven's sake and for the sake of the US, get over it already
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