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Two questions stand out as questions each and every Democrat must ask themselves as they head into this election: What other constitutional rights are you willing to forfeit? And what other constitutional rights is the DNC preparing to deny?

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    Klarissa4 months, 1 week ago

    During the 2008 primary election cycle the DNC Executive Committee penalized the states of Michigan and Florida for executing their primaries before the committee said it could execute them. Initially, both of these states were to lose their delegates to the convention and have their state's vote totals ignored. As we all know, the DNC's Rules and Bylaws Committee voted last week to allow the Michigan and Florida delegates to be seated but in doing so devalued their votes to only half that of the other states' delegates.

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      smithichie4 months, 1 week ago

      What was the Rep solution to FL and MI? And do you think it's all been cleared up, even now?

      http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/jun/05/na-rest...

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    Klarissa4 months, 1 week ago

    These initial and subsequent decisions by the DNC and the DNC's Rules and Bylaws Committee have resulted in Hillary Clinton having received a majority of the popular vote and Barack Obama receiving an adjusted majority of the delegates.

    Further, without the role of the superdelegates neither of the candidates would have attained an unbeatable number of delegates for the nominating process at the convention, thus creating the need for an open convention, a convention where the candidates would literally have to court each vote from each delegate.

    By manipulating the worth of the votes that will be cast by the Florida and Michigan delegates and by the existence of superdelegates to the weight of 20% of the total vote, the DNC under Howard Dean has literally selected their party's candidate over the will of the Democrat populace, evidenced by the total popular vote.

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      smithichie4 months, 1 week ago

      No party has the perfect Primary system, but even with all the snags this season I still would take the Dems system over the Reps, winner takes all system. A Rep can win a state with only a 1% lead and cancel out every vote not made for them, while the Dems count every vote.

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    djn3nunez34 months, 1 week ago

    When we elect a president the nation wide popular vote doesn't count either. Either way, I think the next President will not be John McSame. Also, I suspect that many dittoheads crossed over and voted for Hillary because that is the candidate they think McSame has the best chance against. Too bad so sad, on to Novermber.

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      Klarissa4 months, 1 week ago

      djn - I think that the superdelegates have stepped over their bounds. They should wait until the convention.

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    stephen-johnson4 months, 1 week ago

    "How Many Rights Are Democrats Willing to Forfeit?"

    It all depends on whether Obama wins the presidency or not. If he loses, the party apparatchiks will complain about abuses ad nauseum. If he wins, you won't hear a peep from them.

    We're talking about politics, not principles.

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      RickyDawkins4 months, 1 week ago

      Kinda reminds me how the Bushies violated our rights by wiretapping, then spun it as "protecting us from terrorists".

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    hefaa14 months, 1 week ago

    More Republican Hypocrisy:

    Hillary won the popular vote but lost the election and the republicans are saying she got screwed. Does the Gore/Bush Presidential Election of 2000 count?

    "How Many Rights Are Democrats Willing to Forfeit?" We're just trying to RE-GAIN what the facist and poorly named Patriot Act took away. Our rights were "Forfeited" during the Bush Administration.

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      stephen-johnson4 months, 1 week ago

      " Hillary won the popular vote but lost the election and the republicans are saying she got screwed."

      No, Hillary said that SHE got screwed. Republicans aren't involved in the Democratic primaries.

      "Does the Gore/Bush Presidential Election of 2000 count?"

      No, because the presidency is decided by the Electoral College, not by popular vote.

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