W. Regrets Almost Nothing »
Posted by: berkeley 2 months ago271 Comments Report this Story
In Old Europe, they've moved on, assuming that the American president has done all the damage that he can do. The blazing hostility toward W. has faded to indifference and a sort of fatigued perplexity about how les imbeciles de regime cowboy got into office, and how America could have put the world through all this craziness.
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hyperbola2 months ago
There doesn't seem to be much hope of reversing the bush type politics in 2009. Those of you who think Obama represents change had better get ready to hold his feet to the fire if you want any changes.
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hyperbola2 months ago
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mesodude2 months ago
"There doesn't seem to be much hope of reversing the bush type politics in 2009. Those of you who think Obama represents change had better get ready to hold his feet to the fire if you want any changes."
--There's hope if people think for themselves and understand that being a responsible citizen involves more than just showing up at the ballot box and choosing a "leader" or simply sitting back while holding their President's feet to the fire. I'm sick of hearing the right wing noise machine mischaracterize Obama supporters as if we're all love-struck teen girls looking for him to be some superhero who will not just save our world but *be* our world. Whoever wins in Nov will have a helluva mess to clean up and it's unrealistic to think they won't need our help.
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gamahuche2 months ago
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In Old Europe, they've moved on, assuming that the American president has done all the damage that he can do. The blazing hostility toward W. has faded to indifference and a sort of fatigued perplexity about how les imbeciles de regime cowboy got into office, and how America could have put the world through all this craziness.
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What is IMPOSSIBLE to conceive of here is that the US could even begin to imagine another one from the same team. Like a football team that has been relegated to a lower division would hire another coach who only believed in the same strategy.
Most Europeans do have a fondness for the US be it based on Westerns or jazz or that the US wartime liberators brought cigarettes instead of stealing watches - and went home again afterwards.
But this lowbrow oafishness that the current incumbent seems to imagine is cute or charming doesn't impress anybody on this side of the water. Anybody at all.
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Justice4All2 months ago
I'm not sure which side of the water you are referring to but W's popularity in the US is about the same as in France. The only difference is the French saw through him a few years earlier.
I do have one request from the Europeans and that is that they stop referring to Bush as a "cowboy". He is not a cowboy. I have many friends who are cowboys and was probably considered one myself 30 years ago. Cowboys are generally hard working honest people. They tell the truth and help people in need. Bush is a spoiled rich kid who thinks living on a ranch is a fun thing to do. Everything he has was handed to him. So please, stop insulting cowboys by referring to Bush as one.
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gamahuche2 months ago
O.K. Alright already!
It was Maureen Dowd who used the word cowboy - but I think that her phrase "regime de cowboy" probably did include the concept that he was "playing" cowboy.Clearing brush for photo-ops. Now are there any pictures anywhere of him in a horse.
As a long-term resident of MT I can state that the cowboys there took a long swaggering step towards the everyday world when they started smoking dope. Before that it could be an extremely dis-jointing experience to step into the Long-Branch Saloon in mistake for the the adjacent Wrangler, especially if you were a longhair and could be taken for a city dweller.
As a COMPLETE outsider I usually got a grudging pass but that changed into something more respectful after I helped some wranglers to survive after they got caught in some bad weather up the gulch where I hung my hat. A Mexican sombrero that was..
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cleare2 months ago
justice -
there's another difference between the french and us...wish i could take credit for it but i heard it somewhere..."The difference between the French and the Americans is that in France the government is afraid of the people and in America the people are afraid of the government". or something like that.
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dunkirk2 months ago
LOL, I can understanad your cncern over Bush being called a cowboy however when Maureen Dowd coined that phrase I believe it was in a tone of sarcasm referring to the fact that Dumya was about aqs far away from hard working and honest as you can get. Sarcasm is often lost on here
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vor2 months ago
Ironic that Cheney, who drove the idealogy behind the foreign policy of this administration, created the "Project For a New American Century" (PNAC) in the 90's to ensure just the opposite. Their mission statement: to ensure American world dominance through the 21st Century. Yet in just over 6 short years they have managed to move up the timetable for Eastern world dominance up about 50 years. And what do they have to show for this? Iraq? Afghanistan? We are still paying for Iraqi oil while we babysit their country and continue to pile up record debt. Much of it to the East.
Bush was the neocons dupe, their everyman, the candidate that Turd Blossom could get elected. He knows little more of the world today than he did 7 years ago. He was always a lightweight on world affairs. His legacy will be the badly damaged nation he hands over to his replacement. Perhaps if we do indeed live in a Big Brother world in the future he will be resurrected. That is his only hope.
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ProudBlueTexan2 months ago
And to think that it could happen again!?!?! What is wrong with so many Americans? I understand that critical thinkers are in short supply, but c'mon....
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Leemck022 months ago
V.O.R. it would take Cheney to contrive a "dominance" plan. This Con bunch cannot understand "leadership" has responsibility to the planet, not just family and friends, as the most developed economy; they missed the point totally. Thanks to 'W', Cheney and Rumsfield, their actions may correct the matter of this nation being most developed economy, and the military may follow accordingly. They couldn't resist trying to hedge for control, Jim Crow on the world; taking without sharing, sharecroppers. We didn't lead with diligence and prudence befitting the honor. No Solomon here, though we have King George, or at least a Decider; if we don't change, we lose top leadership positions in the world.
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tanglang2 months ago
"Impeach, try, convict, and hold them to the same letter of the law bush used as governor."
Do they not get a fair trial? You have said basically the same thing rightfromwrong said. That they should be killed. You, him and 14 other non-Americans just advocated the murder of the President and Vice President! The fact is, you cannot impeach them without evidence of wrongdoing. Congress just said that the evidence was not there. You cannot put them on trial without evidence of a crime. The House just voted and the evidence is not there. You Damn sure cannot convict or sentence someone unless you are on the jury.
What makes you think that a jury would find them guilty of any wrongdoing? And don't give me the "I just know" bs. Alot of people "Just Knew" that OJ was guilty.
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slate2 months ago
Alret Alert! This is not a defense post for GW Bush!
Other than maybe Nixon, which president has ever said they regret what they did in office; Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Johnson, Ford or Kennedy?
Kennedy almost blew up the planet with his knuckleheaded handing of Russia for God's sake and you worship him.
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slate2 months ago
If the story said Bush Regrets everything he has done in office, you same people would still be here saying the same thing. As well as some knuckle dragging putz saying something about torturing the Pres. And VP and leaving them for dead in Iraq.
Change is coming, roles will reverse, I hope your memory is good enough to understand the things that will be said about the guy you are going to vote for in the future. You've built him up to superhero status anything les than that will be thoroughly railed against by the right.
The electro microscope will now begin to focus on the Democrats, now that they will have all branches in hand. You damn well better hope they do as well as you claim they will. Not just 'anyone's better than Bush' but like someone said on another thread, if Obama isn't elected it's the end of Da world good.
Good luck with that standard,,,,,,, well have ASTM come in and keep an eye on yas.
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gamahuche2 months ago
I'll second that Slate.
Half of the real problem is that far too much of the "action" is 30 second sound-bites, cheerleading, slogans and hype. Just this morning I saw a clip of an Obama rally with an insane density of those CHANGE banners and it made me feel like throwing up. HOWEVER, when I first saw them - in NH - and heard his speech I told my gf that it was all over, a shoe-in, and placed a very hefty wager on the final outcome at very generous odds.
So how about inventing a new campaign model where the cheering crowds thing only has to be done once and the rest is done on video? People can dose themselves to the level that they want and then spend the rest of the time seriously studying the manifestos.
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dissent2 months ago
"but like someone said on another thread, if Obama isn't elected it's the end of Da world"
now slatey, you know that was me. here's some elementary math for ya. Add 8 years of war, saber rattling, threats and global instability to a mr mcgoo in the oval office who promises more of the same and what kind of future have we got? i rest my case
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wtagg2 months ago
What has put this country into a state where such rhetoric is so easily embraced? This is becoming very common in the last couple of decades. It is sad when this type of worship (on both sides) overshadows common sense.
I look to the media as the focal point. Left, right, center, all of it. The talk of impartiality, fair and balanced, only the news fit to print, etc... but the election process is like their christmas season. They do not want to change how the process works and as this election season has been the perfect example, stirring up controversy, extending the process, etc... only helps their cause, selling time.
If we want real change in government and the election process, I think something needs to change with how the media has seemingly hijacked the election process.
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mesodude2 months ago
"You've built him up to superhero status anything les than that will be thoroughly railed against by the right."
--Why do you talk about Obama as if you have no clue that the exact same argument can be made against you cons regarding your worship of Bush? Are your really that blind to your own hypocrisy, slater?
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slate2 months ago
The Kennedy's died because they dared to stand up to the mob,,or his VP had him killed,, being shot doesn't make you an instant hero does it? If Bush were shot would he be one as well?
LOL JFK and RFK died by the same bullet flying around for a few years? And you try to tell me to read before saying something?
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Leemck022 months ago
Slate, Clinton was very public in admitting his error for not handling the genocide issues. It was a few more that he could have confessed to but considering he did leave a surplus when he came in to a horrible economy, resolved war threats, etc., then he could get a pass. Regan did leave trying to put out the Contra - dope for guns scandal, which he and Bush denied to the end. LBJ did get his new society working even if he blew Viet Nam and did have the good grace not to seek reelection, so he can get a pass. Ford & Carter, they did good and bad, the pardon on Ford and the mishandling of the Iranian Crisis but these men did not make the Presidency a friends and family revenue/profit stream. FEMA worked extremely well under Carter, he can get a pass. Ford didn't rock the world, no pass is necessary. But 'W', wow and you compare JFK to 'W'? Les we forget! YGTBSM!
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Will13132 months ago
Kennedy almost blew up the planet with his knuckleheaded handing of Russia for God's sake and you worship him.
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are you saying that Kennedy .. should have been and APPEASER.... ??
seems that it turned out pretty good.. without anyone getting killed over it.. except Kennedy..
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mesodude2 months ago
slate, of course you're defending him because you'd never go out of your way to rebut a similar post about Clinton and we both know it so please stop. Anyway, the main problem with your argument is that Bush is unpopular for MANY reasons other than his foreign policy blunders. In a side by side comparision to almost all previous Presidents that I can think of, Bush's failure and incompetence are unparalleled. This man is disaster personified.
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KazamaSmokers2 months ago
Wow. You understand less about the Cuban Missile Crisis than anyone I've ever met.
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hdthehn2 months ago
Slate-
"Kennedy almost blew up the planet with his knuckleheaded handing of Russia for God's sake and you worship him"
Take some advice from your compassionate conservative hero Supreme Court Justice Scalia "Get over it. It's so old by now."
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/24/scalia-on-b...
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obiefrommuskogee2 months ago
So true. GW Bush is just a flesh blob in an expensive suit. He is not worth the food it took to sustain his protoplasm.
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FSU92grad2 months ago
Great....Another thread for stupid libs to pi$$ and moan about Bush...Same old, Same old...
Yes the economy is bad, but I still believe it is because of the outsourcing of oil, cars and many other products...We're helping their economy, but hurting ours...We've become a society of "paper"....We don't make or produce anything here in the US...We're a country of consumption...
Is that Bush's fault? I dunno...I think Clinton is partly to blame as well by not signing the bill to drill in ANWR back in '95....If he had done that, the price of oil would have been much lower today...THat would have bought us some time to come up with alternative fuel sources like nuclear, but 13 years later we still have the same stupid Democraps voting the same way, which is handcuffing our society...We still rely on foreign oil and it's going to be many decades before we can find and mass produce alternative fuel sources to supply our energy needs...
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