House leaders reach deal on war funding bill »
Posted by: STONERS 2 months agoLeaders in the U.S. House of Representatives struck a deal on Wednesday on legislation to provide $162 billion in new funds for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, ending a long standoff with the White House.
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STONERS2 months ago
"House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, a Maryland Democrat, said the compromise would address "important domestic needs" as well, including expanding job benefits for the long-term unemployed in the United States."
"Hoyer added that the full House was expected to debate the deal on Thursday. If it passes the House, the Senate is likely to take it up in coming days."
"The $162 billion for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan ought to carry U.S. combat troops for a full year, according to congressional estimates."
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jordan112 months ago
162 billion. Imagine the jobs that could create. Then there would be no need for expanding job benefits. Our roads, bridges, dams, water systems, railways....all in need of repair, & folks out of work. Could hire teachers. Could build schools. But noooo. Gotta pour more into Iraq. Gotta give more to failed contractors & pay off politicians.
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GHOSTWHOWALKS2 months ago
I must have missed the memo. I could have swore that we elected the current crops of idiots to end the war, not fund it. Silly me.
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CHAM2 months ago
not2needy & Stoners
And that money is going to those who profit from war:
The War Machine: Military Industrial Complex, Mercenary Business Corporations, Oil Companies, Friends of Bush, Republicans and Democrats in Congress, Other War Ancillary Big Business Corporations, Financial Institutions, Etc. Say about 3% of the American people.
Who is paying that money?: The American Taxpayer, the rest of the people.
But there are other costs not mentioned:
The death of a million innocents, The destruction of a Country that did not participate in 9/11, The loss of liberties for the American public, The cause of 4 million refugees, a country contaminated by radioactive munition residue that will cause birth defects and premature death of those who have managed to survive for thousands of years,the death knell for the future of a country.
Why?
To make less than 1% of Americans more powerful and richer.
The rest of us will be poorer and less free.
Stop this war!
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Blackacereturn2 months ago
That is the sad part that they are those who are profiting immensely from this. Shame on bush and his buddies. I am a man of god and my god will have the last laugh with these despicable humans.
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CRYMTYPHON2 months ago
if Nader had been a little more grown up 8 years ago we would be talking about where best to spend our surplus.
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Growl. Grr. Now you've got me started.
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CHAM2 months ago
Spadecaller
Yes and a whole lot more. And many of them need to be brought up on charges of war profiteering and war criminal acts.
What these people have done is dispicable.
I suppose that we the voters may be even more dispicable.
We have the power to throw them out, bring them to justice, but I'm betting that won't happen.
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raza92 months ago
Here, Here Charlson!
Many, faced with the reality that the war in Iraq is not going well, line up to place all the blame on the president. The president "mismanaged" the war, they say. "It's all the president's fault," they claim. In reality, much of the blame should rest with Congress, which shirked its constitutional duty to declare war and instead told the president to decide for himself whether or not to go to war. This is exactly what our Founding Fathers cautioned against when crafting our form of government: most had just left behind a monarchy where the power to declare war rested in one individual.
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raza92 months ago
Congress voted for a resolution that transfers the responsibility, the authority, and the power of the Congress to the President so he can declare war when and if he wants to. It does something else, though. One-half of the resolution delivers this power to the President, but it also instructs him to enforce U.N. resolutions. The president stated in a speech that had Saddam Hussein remained in power, the United Nations resolutions and condemnations would be "scraps of paper amounting to nothing." In the eyes of many, it is our own Constitution being treated as a meaningless scrap of paper.
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GHOSTWHOWALKS2 months ago
BS. All they need do it stand for something besides business as usual and live up to their oath.
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walden32 months ago
Why not we have money to burn. We might as well load greenbacks onto rockets and shoot them towards the sun.
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AlphaGnosis2 months ago
"Democratic and Republican leaders in the House hailed an agreement they said would avoid a veto that President George W. Bush had threatened over some provisions Democrats had been trying to add beyond the war funds.
House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, a Maryland Democrat, said the compromise would address "important domestic needs" as well, including expanding job benefits for the long-term unemployed in the United States."
Awesome.
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CHAM2 months ago
AlphaGnosis
The Parties Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum have spoken. Give the Criminal what he wants to distribute amongst his War Mongering friends, you know, the war profiteers, and that will be OK with Congress just as long as they get their Bakshish.
Course I call it blood money. Bribery comes in many forms.
What amazes me is that many people who call themselves moral are all for the blood letting going on. Why are they for it? Machoism, Stupidism, Partyism, Religiousism, but never intelligent and moral thought.
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antibrainwasher2 months ago
Oh, and that's just getting started. The big four are signing up to take control of Iraq oil. Now, we'll have to supsidize big oil by protecting their intrest in Iraq for the next 100 years. At tax payer expence as always.
Those that have the oil, like the gold, rule. Four more years of McBush, vote republican.
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CHAM2 months ago
bonaroo
You got that right.
And I would invite any reader to take a look back in history to see how "Patriotic" some of the companies were in World War II.
Try Googling Standard Oil I G Farben World War II . Take all the time you need and do a lot of reading.
You will find complicity with the enemy that will make your hair stand on end.
That's your good ole Oil and Chemical companies. Taking care of self.
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AlphaGnosis2 months ago
Most importantly,
"This is an agreement that has been worked out in a bipartisan way that I think is acceptable to both most Democrats and most Republicans," House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, said.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., withheld an outright endorsement but through a spokesman praised several key elements of the deal.
White House Budget Director Jim Nussle signaled Bush would sign the measure.
"It meets the needs of the troops; it doesn't tie the hands of commanders in the field," Nussle said. He also said the spending levels in the bill stayed within Bush's demands.
But the agreement drops restrictions on Bush's ability to conduct the war and gives him almost all of the funding he sought well over a year ago for Iraq and Afghanistan."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080619/ap_on_go_co...
Beautiful.
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antibrainwasher2 months ago
165 billion would build how many new schools? How much research could be financed for alternative energy? How many solar panels could 165 billion buy? We could build a high speed bullet train across the couintry for that, many of them.
Of that 165 billion, how much goes to Haliburton? To KBR? How many billionaires will that tax money create? Freaking insane. And they are fighting to not increase taxes on the rich. Republicans have destroyed the GOP, from the patriotic idealistic party, to a party of ignorant playground bullys. The party of the rich, for the rich, and the religious whacknuts.
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unome22 months ago
Blood for oil, pure and simple.
I sure hope the oil elite and military industrialists appreciate our children's blood.
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chas2 months ago
Everyone wants to make a Dem vs Rep fight out of this situation. The Congress has the power and the authority to stop the war by not funding it. A president cannot wage war or do much of anything else without the authority of Congress. Executive Orders have limited power.
So if everyone wants to stop the war or anything else our president is doing then when voting for the members of Congress (either house) vote for the person that will do their job according to the Constitution. Let them know at the next election (or six years later for senators) they will be closely scrutinized concerning their voting record. Just maybe one day we will be able have a Congress that will have the good of the country at heart instead of their own political agendas.
Let's hold the "holder of the purse strings" accountable!!
SUPPORT OOUR AMERICAN FIGHTING FORCES!!!!
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