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Posted By bigurn 3 months, 2 weeks ago in NewsThe New York Times thinks Republicans are running against the wrong Obama.
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If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you ...
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bigurn3 months, 2 weeks ago
Barack Obama is simply doing what is necessary to further his ultimate goal: the Presidency. I am not surprised by this. What I am surprised is how long it took most people to notice this kind of behavior about it, particularly the press.
And I am utterly stunned that the New York Times published this.
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jimdoze3 months, 2 weeks ago
Brian Williams brought it up in Meet the Press this morning.
It should and it will get noticed... if only on the back pages. One test will be whether we see this replace "Big Twins" in the "Propeller Recommends" headlines.
BTW, Joe Biden was running very hard for VP on MTP this morning. He was hitting all the talking points with animation and conviction... the most interesting of which was that the high price of oil is "a gift to the American people."
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icono13 months, 2 weeks ago
Interesting article that points out the salient features of the political persona of Comrade OBama aka fast Eddie.
However I really don't think that Valid Putin, once head of the KGB, will be suckered by Citizen Comrade Fast Eddie. Putin's country politically and economically embraced Marxism for decades and through real life and often bitter experience(s) they, the Russians, 'know about' the whole range of duplicitous political behaviour and the psychological profiles of the individuals that 'play that game'.
If fast Eddie is opportunistic the Russians are also; so it could come down to a game of 'the con, an inexperienced fast Eddie from Chicago Illinois politics, conning the con, Valad and the experienced Russian geopolitical apparatus'.
I wonder who would win that one.
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icono13 months, 2 weeks ago
But I really do love this slam on Bill Clinton;
"Even Bill Clinton wasn't smart enough to succeed in politics by pretending to renounce politics."
Not exactly true but close enough to be believed.
Bill was obsessed with nefarious right wing conspiracies to explain away his political faults but the real problem was his inability to determine which 'head' to listen to.
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icono13 months, 2 weeks ago
All politicians are duplicitous. It is the nature of 'their chosen' occupation.
However OBama's followers have seen him not as a 'typical politician' but a speaker of 'simple truths' and the definite person to bring 'real change' to American politics via political transparency, earned trust and simplicity of ideas. (Sounds good in theory but not likely to happen in reality any time in the near or distant future. Especially in DC.))
In America, the whole ball game in politics is about appearance, not reality.
Hence the Times remark;
"He made a cut-throat political calculation seem like Mother Teresa's final steps to sainthood."
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Nixie3 months, 2 weeks ago
"However OBama's followers have seen him not as a 'typical politician' but a speaker of 'simple truths' and the definite person to bring 'real change' to American politics via political transparency, earned trust and simplicity of ideas."
Exactly. And in reality, he's just another D.C. politician.
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Klarissa3 months, 2 weeks ago
And about these facts (from factcheck.org.)
Lobbyist Loopholes?
We've noted before that Obama's policy of not taking money from lobbyists is a bit of hair-splitting. It's true that he doesn't accept contributions from individuals who are registered to lobby the federal government. But he does take money from their spouses and from other individuals at firms where lobbyists work. And some of his bigger fundraisers were registered lobbyists until they signed on with the Obama campaign.
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bonaroo3 months, 2 weeks ago
I've contributed a couple of times already, and will again I'm sure. I know a few people who sent the Government incentive checks to Obama. What a great way to invest in your childrens future.
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rimbaud3 months, 2 weeks ago
I would feel more comfortable financing my government than giving the Chinese and the Arabs that leverage. The Republicans used to call it "financial responsibility".
P.S. Investing in the USA must still be a good deal: I hear the Arabs and the Chinese are shopping for bargains.
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JoseMadre3 months, 2 weeks ago
If the NY Tass is finally getting it there could be hope for the nation yet.
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Nixie3 months, 2 weeks ago
It's no joke.
"The new Obama seal--inspired by the real presidential seal--debutted in Chicago on Friday at a meeting presumptive nominee Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) had with Democratic governors. The seal--with the Obama "Yes we can" slogan in Latin--was created by the Obama campaign graphics team. In a bit of graphics whimsy, the seal incorporates the Obama "O" rising sun icon."
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bonaroo3 months, 2 weeks ago
I've always liked David Brooks' perspective.
"All I know for sure is that this guy is no liberal goo-goo. Republicans keep calling him naive. But naive is the last word I'd use to describe Barack Obama. He's the most effectively political creature we've seen in decades. Even Bill Clinton wasn't smart enough to succeed in politics by pretending to renounce politics."
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bigurn3 months, 2 weeks ago
I think there are several things we can do. Getting involved on a small scale is fairly easy, and doesn't cost a whole lot more than time. You'll find the experience educational, some positive, some negative, and rewarding upon examination. Not getting involved when you have something to contribute is how we got the 2000 election.
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TOD3963 months, 2 weeks ago
All along, I have been stating that Obama is just the same old song and dance. David Brooks elevates Obama to a higher level. A level that makes Obama even scarier. Not because Obama talks out of both sides of his mouth, but that he does so while proclaiming to not be a politician who talks out of both sides of his mouth. If Obama is elected, there will truly be a knashing of teeth and wailing at the wall. The problem is, it will be mostly Democrats spouting things like: I never saw this coming, Why didn't someone tell us he was like this, Where did his ethics go, I can't pay for all his programs,
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