Response from Barack on FISA »
Posted By Beeboppin71 2 months, 4 weeks ago in NewsThis was not an easy call for me. I know that the FISA bill that passed the House is far from perfect. I wouldn't have drafted the legislation like this, and it does not resolve all of the concerns that we have about President Bush's abuse of executive power. I support striking Title II from the bill, and will work to remove this provision.
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Radiofreeeuropa2 months, 4 weeks ago
I personally thought this was a poor bill. I am glad to hear the explanation, and one was certainly needed. I am sure Obama supports parts of the bill, he has said that all along. I complained to my representatives about this bill and they responded saying it was tweaked to be better than the original. I doubt it is constitutionally sound, if challenged.
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GHOSTWHOWALKS2 months, 4 weeks ago
If he felt so strongly about his non support of the FISA bill, then why did he vote for it? Character is defined as standing for what one believe is right. Not saying one thing the doing another.
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Beeboppin712 months, 4 weeks ago
I'm still not sure how I feel about his support of this Bill but I do believe that he will work with the Senate to make the necessary adjustments to it. I feel that his response was straight forward, honest and to the point. I am especially encouraged by his comments motivating the citizens to continue to take a stand against it. I was also impressed by his call to Americans to continue to hold their elected officials accountable for their actions. And believe me, I will hold them accountable. I'll be watching future developments regarding this bill closely. Obama can bank on it.
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Beeboppin712 months, 4 weeks ago
I'm still not sure how I feel about his support of this Bill but I do believe that he will work with the Senate to make the necessary adjustments to it. I feel that his response was straight forward, honest and to the point.
I am especially encouraged by his comments motivating the citizens to continue to take a stand against it. I was also impressed by his call to Americans to continue to hold their elected officials accountable for their actions. And believe me, I will hold them accountable.
I'll be watching future developments regarding this bill closely. Obama can bank on it.
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bubba22 months, 3 weeks ago
Exactly!
NOTHING was wrong with the original FISA law - except that Bush and his cronies didn't like it because they didn't want to OBEY it.
I can't say I forgive Obama for voting for the bill, but he did support 3 amendments - all of which failed - to remove or limit the immunity for the telecomms.
But, Obama will have to become a Republican before I will NOT vote for him.
McCain can't even SHOW UP to vote on anything anymore. He has been absent from the Senate since April 1.
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tehranchik2 months, 3 weeks ago
What happens if Obama isn't elected? Or do you feel like I do and think he did it TO get elected?
Bottom line is--he voted for it.
I've been on and off the Obama train so many times my head is spinning. I don't know what to think anymore.
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raza92 months, 3 weeks ago
Jefferson, concerned about the future, wrote: "Yes, we did produce a near-perfect republic. But will they keep it? Or will they, in the enjoyment of plenty, lose the memory of freedom? Material abundance without character is the path of destruction." "They" that he refers to are " we." And the future is now. Freedom, Jefferson knew, would produce "plenty," and with "material abundance" it's easy to forget the responsibility the citizens of a free society must assume if freedom and prosperity are to continue. The key element for the Republic's survival for Jefferson was the "character" of the people, something no set of laws can instill. The question today is not that of abundance, but of character, respect for others, their liberty and their property. It is the character of the people that determines the proper role for government in a free society.
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raza92 months, 3 weeks ago
Samuel Adams, likewise, warned future generations. He referred to "good manners" as the vital ingredient a free society needs to survive. Adams said: "Neither the wisest Constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt."
The message is clear, if we lose our love of liberty and our manners become corrupt, character is lost and so is the Republic.
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/
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aniokly2 months, 3 weeks ago
It was in this mornings Tribune that Democrats voted for the FISA bill, because Republicans would have accused them of being for Terrorists. That old dog won't hunt. Democrats voted for FISA, because the Telecoms greased their palms with some dirty lucre.No it won't be in the records. It was under the table where the Democrats alkways get their questionable donations. Months ago my daughter called the DNC, Moveon.Org, and some other Organizations, and told them to take her name off their donor list, because Pelosi didn't Impeach Bush, and Cheney. Then she said Obama betrayed Democrats by moving center, but she might vote for him. Now she is so discusted over this FISA vote she is voting McCain.Do Democrats stand for anything? What?
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hyperbola2 months, 3 weeks ago
well, I scanned through some of the comments on the Obama site. It was heartening to see that a large majority condemned Obama's vote (about 4 to 1) and gave ample reasons why it was wrong. This is just one more of the too many compromises made by Obama.
That said, I think many people are missing the point. The real problem is that the media in the US is owned largely by corporations that profit from our "national security state" and wars. Either Obama is forced to compromise or is already a candidate of those interests (take your pick) because the media is promoting the corruption of the "state" for private control and profit.
We need a law that says that NO media organization (or any of its parent companies) can receive ANY contract from the government.
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mompro2 months, 3 weeks ago
I was shocked that the number of investigation requests have reached the 22,000 mark per year through FISA. I believe one was actually denied last year of all of those. No wonder they had to extend the paperwork deadline to 7 days following the beginning of the surveilance, etc. How convenient that it be okay to break the law for 7 days while you come up with excuses for not getting the paperwork done earlier, in an overused illegal process. OMG, the whole thing is an absolute nightmare to justice. No excuses. It was a no vote to me and he can explain all he wants, it was the wrong vote. I never agree with my candidate 100%.
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fsev412 months, 3 weeks ago
Because of polarization we seem to have lost sight of what politics is supposed to be about. Politics should be a practice in compromise. No one should get everything they want. There has to be give and take. The fact that someone has to give up something to get something else should be considered normal. Barack has said that he doesn't particularly like the bill but it's the best we can do with the time constraints involved. He's compromising.
He has just spent two years and has five more months ahead in his quest for the presidency. In that quest he MUST seek to attract as many voters as possible, Democrat, Independent and even Republican. That's a difficult goal to achieve. At least he voted on the bill and that's more than can be said for his rival.
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raza92 months, 3 weeks ago
A little sacrifice of personal liberty is a small price to pay for long-time security, it is too often reasoned. There should not be any compromising on the issue of Liberty! Whatever constitutional rights are taken from us (or that we choose to relinquish) will not be restored after a few years. In all likelihood, they will be gone forever.
The grand experiment in human liberty must not be abandoned. A renewed hope and understanding of liberty is what we need.
We need politicians who work to empower the people, not themselves.
But a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever.
John Adams
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